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Old 10 Jun 2007, 08:35 pm
Rjh
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Default 94 civic -won't start

OK, replaced plugs, checked timing and timing belt, appears to have spark
and plenty of fuel. Pulled pump and cleaned injectors also.
Car ran, stalled on highway and stopped....It had been missing a little for
a day or two before it failed. Even tried starting fluid.nothing works and
I'm lost. Car has 116,000 and seems to have been taken care of. The
distributor was loose when I opended the hood, so I'm sure timing is an
issue but I tried several placements. WAS surprised to see all the torque
on the distributor which is probably why it loosened. Lined up timing TDC
and UP mark on cam and distributor rotor points to number 1 cylinder.
HELP!!!!


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Old 11 Jun 2007, 07:49 am
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"Rjh" <bobandjean1981@verizon.net> wrote in
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> OK, replaced plugs, checked timing and timing belt, appears to have
> spark and plenty of fuel. Pulled pump and cleaned injectors also.
> Car ran, stalled on highway and stopped....It had been missing a
> little for a day or two before it failed. Even tried starting
> fluid.nothing works and I'm lost. Car has 116,000 and seems to have
> been taken care of. The distributor was loose when I opended the
> hood, so I'm sure timing is an issue but I tried several placements.




There is only ONE correct "placement".

Get a timing light and set it properly.



> WAS surprised to see all the torque on the distributor which is
> probably why it loosened.




The distributor is held down by three bolts. If the thing came loose,
somebody fooked up during the last service and left the bolts loose. The
distributor does NOT EVER come loose when all three bolts are properly
tightened.

Once you have the ignition timing set up properly, check for spark at the
plugs.


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Old 12 Jun 2007, 05:14 pm
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Default Re: 94 civic -won't start

Ok, cranked engine and checked with timing light..........the problem is it
has intermittent spark. Turn distributor and no spark.............guess
I'll need to start from the top, bribg number 1 cylinder to TDC, allign can
"up" mark and distributor number one..replace timing belt and try
again........suggestions????


"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Rjh" <bobandjean1981@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:wF1bi.1984$xg4.190@trnddc08:
>
>> OK, replaced plugs, checked timing and timing belt, appears to have
>> spark and plenty of fuel. Pulled pump and cleaned injectors also.
>> Car ran, stalled on highway and stopped....It had been missing a
>> little for a day or two before it failed. Even tried starting
>> fluid.nothing works and I'm lost. Car has 116,000 and seems to have
>> been taken care of. The distributor was loose when I opended the
>> hood, so I'm sure timing is an issue but I tried several placements.

>
>
>
> There is only ONE correct "placement".
>
> Get a timing light and set it properly.
>
>
>
>> WAS surprised to see all the torque on the distributor which is
>> probably why it loosened.

>
>
>
> The distributor is held down by three bolts. If the thing came loose,
> somebody fooked up during the last service and left the bolts loose. The
> distributor does NOT EVER come loose when all three bolts are properly
> tightened.
>
> Once you have the ignition timing set up properly, check for spark at the
> plugs.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
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Old 12 Jun 2007, 06:46 pm
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"Rjh" <bobandjean1981@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Ok, cranked engine and checked with timing light..........the problem is
> it has intermittent spark. Turn distributor and no
> spark.............guess I'll need to start from the top, bribg number 1
> cylinder to TDC, allign can "up" mark and distributor number one..replace
> timing belt and try again........suggestions????
>
>

Have you removed the cap and checked the rotor? If it is an aftermarket
rotor (shudder!) the main part may have separated from the metal sleeve that
goes on the distributor shaft. The spark on any given wire becomes
intermittent that way, as the rotor plays "spin the bottle." I've seen it
once and heard of it once more; it has convinced me to use OEM ignition
parts.

Mike



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Old 19 Jun 2007, 09:17 pm
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Default Re: 94 civic -won't start

Thanks for all your help............things just didn't seem right and
started from the top with checking to see that everything is in line as far
as timing. Found out when distributor was loose it actually jumped 180
degrees out of time!! BUT the timing belt was original so I changed that
also....runns like a champ!!


"Rjh" <bobandjean1981@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:wF1bi.1984$xg4.190@trnddc08...
> OK, replaced plugs, checked timing and timing belt, appears to have spark
> and plenty of fuel. Pulled pump and cleaned injectors also.
> Car ran, stalled on highway and stopped....It had been missing a little
> for a day or two before it failed. Even tried starting fluid.nothing
> works and I'm lost. Car has 116,000 and seems to have been taken care of.
> The distributor was loose when I opended the hood, so I'm sure timing is
> an issue but I tried several placements. WAS surprised to see all the
> torque on the distributor which is probably why it loosened. Lined up
> timing TDC and UP mark on cam and distributor rotor points to number 1
> cylinder.
> HELP!!!!
>



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Old 12 Jul 2007, 09:44 am
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"Rjh" <bobandjean1981@verizon.net> wrote in
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> Thanks for all your help............things just didn't seem right and
> started from the top with checking to see that everything is in line
> as far as timing. Found out when distributor was loose it actually
> jumped 180 degrees out of time!! BUT the timing belt was original so
> I changed that also....runns like a champ!!



Excellent!

But the distributor cannot jump 180. The slot is offset from the rotation
axis, so the distributor can only go on the camshaft one way. Somebody
probably rotated the engine when the distributor was off.




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Old 12 Jul 2007, 10:47 pm
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Tegger wrote:
> "Rjh" <bobandjean1981@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:Q60ei.2428$AR5.2213@trnddc06:
>
>> Thanks for all your help............things just didn't seem right and
>> started from the top with checking to see that everything is in line
>> as far as timing. Found out when distributor was loose it actually
>> jumped 180 degrees out of time!! BUT the timing belt was original so
>> I changed that also....runns like a champ!!

>
>
> Excellent!
>
> But the distributor cannot jump 180. The slot is offset from the rotation
> axis, so the distributor can only go on the camshaft one way. Somebody
> probably rotated the engine when the distributor was off.
>
>
>
>

that wouldn't do it. 180 on the cam is 360 on the crank. only way it
can be 180 out is if the timing belt's set wrong after the change.
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