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Old 07 Jun 2007, 07:10 pm
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Default Ford Beats Toyota in Quality for 2007


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060601431.html



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Old 07 Jun 2007, 07:29 pm
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Default Re: Ford Beats Toyota in Quality for 2007

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The trick for Ford will be maintaining the quality. Can they do it or
is it a flash in the pan? Quality has been the norm, rather than the
exception as it has been with the Little Three, for Toyota and Honda.
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Old 07 Jun 2007, 07:38 pm
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Perhaps if one does not look at the growing number of serious Toyota recalls
and does not include all the sludge, brake, tranny gasket and head gaskets
problems

mike

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Old 07 Jun 2007, 07:38 pm
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Lets see, America made or rice burner.


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Old 07 Jun 2007, 07:56 pm
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"Ripcord" ...
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Until they show quality for *much more* than 90 days, it'll be rice burners.

Natalie


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Old 07 Jun 2007, 08:04 pm
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Well, if you consider that JD Powers is the one giving the awards....

JD Powers awarded Scottrade as the best online broker for a few years in
a row. If you ask the trading community, Scottrade is far from the best
online broker.

In the past I also found akward some other awards that were given to
other companies and at the time I asked myself if JD Powers awards were
for sale. Just my opinion and my thoughts.

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Old 07 Jun 2007, 08:44 pm
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Toyota/Lexis got 4 of 8 truck/SUV awards and Honda got one.

http://www.jdpower.com/press-release...spx?id=2007088

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Old 07 Jun 2007, 09:03 pm
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"AS" <donot@spame.com> wrote in message
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> Well, if you consider that JD Powers is the one giving the awards....
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> JD Powers awarded Scottrade as the best online broker for a few years in a
> row. If you ask the trading community, Scottrade is far from the best
> online broker.
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> In the past I also found akward some other awards that were given to other
> companies and at the time I asked myself if JD Powers awards were for
> sale. Just my opinion and my thoughts.
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JD Powers is the same company that has been proping up the japanese
companies for the last 15 years...so what is your point.


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Old 07 Jun 2007, 10:18 pm
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On Jun 7, 8:10 pm, "Huck Flynn" <HF36...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Okay, first I'm going to say that SOME of the foreign branded cars
make an excellent car and that SOME of the American named cars need a
little improvement in quality. Does everybody understand that first
sentence? Good. Now bear with me.

About 20 years ago I was reading about the initial overall quality of
two cars. One was a Japanese car and the other was an American car,
both of these compared side by side. The Japanese car got rave reviews
for initial quality and component fit and the American car had a lot
of initial problems and a lot of new car complaints. Now this wasn't
just one car verses one car, it was thousands of reviews from both
models of cars. Even the owners quotes summed it up real well. "I
bought a Japanese car because of the quality that I wanted and I'm
glad of my purchase". For the American buyers, a lot of quotes were
"As usual, the American car had a lot more problems than if I'd
purchased a Japanese car". This article stated that even Lee Iacoca
(spelling?), had problems with this statement, because the American
car that they were bashing was the Plymouth Laser. Now what was the
car that thousands of buyers were praising??
It was the Mitsubishi Eclipse..........

The real irony is that these cars were identical in about every way
and even produced in the same factory and they were probably made one
car in front of each other. The only difference between the two were
the make/model badges on the dash and on the bumper. THAT'S what
Iacoca was peeved about, the perception of difference.

Once again, is there a difference? Probably.
There certainly is in people's minds.

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Old 08 Jun 2007, 01:34 am
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On Jun 7, 10:03 pm, "Huck Flynn" <HF36...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "AS" <d...@spame.com> wrote in message
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> > Well, if you consider that JD Powers is the one giving the awards....

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> > JD Powers awarded Scottrade as the best online broker for a few years in a
> > row. If you ask the trading community, Scottrade is far from the best
> > online broker.

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> > In the past I also found akward some other awards that were given to other
> > companies and at the time I asked myself if JD Powers awards were for
> > sale. Just my opinion and my thoughts.

>
> JD Powers is the same company that has been proping up the japanese
> companies for the last 15 years...so what is your point.


Actually, it's been more like 25 years, only slight less than Consumer
Reports. But I understand where your coming from.

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