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Old 20 May 2007, 08:42 pm
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Default Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org

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Old 20 May 2007, 09:09 pm
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

Add acetone and K&N and this baby will go 290 mpg : )

On May 20, 9:42 pm, Useful Info <useful_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Read all about it, here:http://Muvy.org



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Old 21 May 2007, 07:49 am
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Add acetone and K&N and this baby will go 290 mpg : )
>
> On May 20, 9:42 pm, Useful Info <useful_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Read all about it, here:http://Muvy.org

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>
>

Watch out for fuel saving actions, though. If the tires are properly
inflated and you drive smoothly, you will have to ride the brakes to keep
the tank from overflowing.



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Old 21 May 2007, 08:02 am
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

I dont understand why VW described it as a 6 speed manual transmission
that shifts automatically. If its a manual its a manual, if its an
automatic its automatic. It only has forward neutral and reverse so
its automatic

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Old 21 May 2007, 09:37 am
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

Just a guess:

The fluids in a traditional automatic transmission would rob that 8 HP
Evinrude of precious power. Instead, they use a manual transmission and add
electronic solenoids and switches to change the gears whenever the software
calculates the optimal (i.e. most fuel efficient) shifting point.

Maybe? But then, I'm sure Dan G would say, "All things being the same, you
don't have a clue what you are talking about."

"EdV" wrote:
>I dont understand why VW described it as a 6 speed manual transmission
> that shifts automatically. If its a manual its a manual, if its an
> automatic its automatic. It only has forward neutral and reverse so
> its automatic
>



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Old 21 May 2007, 09:53 am
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

On May 21, 9:02 am, EdV <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I dont understand why VW described it as a 6 speed manual transmission
> that shifts automatically. If its a manual its a manual, if its an
> automatic its automatic. It only has forward neutral and reverse so
> its automatic



Automatic transmission is a specific type of automatic shifting
mechanism. The normal automatic transmission has significant losses
associated with it, amounting to approx 5-10% of power throughput.
What they've done is taken a standard manual shift transmission and
strapped an automatic shifting aparatus to it.

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Old 21 May 2007, 10:00 am
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

Ahhh, but your caveat is "traditional" there are other 'automatic
transmissions' that 'shift' manually for the driver. To the operator it's
"Automatic!"

So things are -=not the same=- and it's you who doesn't have a clue!



"jp2express" <jp2mail-tempforum@noSpamyahoo.com> found these unused words:

>Just a guess:
>
>The fluids in a traditional automatic transmission would rob that 8 HP
>Evinrude of precious power. Instead, they use a manual transmission and add
>electronic solenoids and switches to change the gears whenever the software
>calculates the optimal (i.e. most fuel efficient) shifting point.
>
>Maybe? But then, I'm sure Dan G would say, "All things being the same, you
>don't have a clue what you are talking about."
>
>"EdV" wrote:
>>I dont understand why VW described it as a 6 speed manual transmission
>> that shifts automatically. If its a manual its a manual, if its an
>> automatic its automatic. It only has forward neutral and reverse so
>> its automatic
>>

>


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Old 21 May 2007, 10:22 am
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 2.82 miles to the gallon.


"Volkswagon unveils car that gets 2.82 miles to the gallon."

:-) It's called the _T_O_U_R_E_G_ :-)


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Old 21 May 2007, 10:25 am
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

Isn't that what I said? Or, isn't shifting manually for the driver the same
as an electronic device that shifts a manual transmission?

"Sir F. A. Rien" wrote:
> Ahhh, but your caveat is "traditional" there are other 'automatic
> transmissions' that 'shift' manually for the driver. To the operator it's
> "Automatic!"
>
> So things are -=not the same=- and it's you who doesn't have a clue!
>



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Old 21 May 2007, 03:16 pm
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Default Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.

In article <1179759181.230339.287330@z28g2000prd.googlegroups .com>,
bill <ford_prefect42@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I dont understand why VW described it as a 6 speed manual transmission
> > that shifts automatically. If its a manual its a manual, if its an
> > automatic its automatic. It only has forward neutral and reverse so
> > its automatic

>
>
> Automatic transmission is a specific type of automatic shifting
> mechanism.


No, it's not.

An automatic transmission is simply one that's automatic and doesn't
require the driver to shift. It can take on any form--for example, like
the Prius's power split device. Or a belt-driven CVT.

Or even the Honda automatic transmission, which is nothing like the GM
trannies.



> What they've done is taken a standard manual shift transmission and
> strapped an automatic shifting aparatus to it.


Which makes it (wait for it....)....an automatic transmission.

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