Honda Car Forum

On May 11, 9:45 am, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
wrote:
> In my forty plus years of fiddlin' with cars, I have found Castrol to
> cut consumption by as much as 50% regardless of the type of car involved
> in ever case.
>
> Just like in politics, it's a case of, "Follow the money."
>
> It's just that simple...

cut consumption by 50%? maybe /you/ need to cut the consumption
before posting on the internet.

bob z.

"bob zee" <bobzee1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 11, 9:45 am, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> wrote:
>> In my forty plus years of fiddlin' with cars, I have found Castrol to
>> cut consumption by as much as 50% regardless of the type of car involved
>> in ever case.
>>
>> Just like in politics, it's a case of, "Follow the money."
>>
>> It's just that simple...
>
> cut consumption by 50%? maybe /you/ need to cut the consumption
> before posting on the internet.
>
> bob z.
>
>
>
J.T. is a good source of info on a wide range of cars (not just Hondas.) How
is it not possible he is right about this? I haven't had cars that consume
significant oil for quite a while so I couldn't say myself, but I have to
credit his observation as "could be."

Mike

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> MAT wrote:
>> "Don Enderton" <Enderton@nosuchaddress.duh> wrote in message
>> news:sOI0i.5504$yM2.3404@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> My local Honda dealer, where I get my oil changed, switched from Castrol
>>> to Mobil oil. Also, the paperwork and windshield sticker no longer
>>> indicate the grade or weight (should be API service SJ "energy
>>> conserving" oil, SAE 5-30 viscosity, for my particular year and model).
>>>
>>> I had an impression from years ago that Castrol was considered a
>>> superior brand. Is that still true, and if so, why?
>>>
>>
>> If you follow an average oil change interval, any API spec oil is just
>> fine.
>
> not "any" oil. motorcraft api spec "semi-synthetic" makes the seals on my
> 89 civic leak like sieves. subsequently running castrol or mobil oil,
> i've had no leakage problems from the same seals whatsoever.

May be the problem is with the Honda OEM seals not the oil.

///snipped///

DaveD

On May 12, 12:03 am, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> "bob zee" <bobz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > maybe /you/ need to cut the consumption
> > before posting on the internet.
>
> > bob z.
>
> J.T. is a good source of info on a wide range of cars (not just Hondas.) How
> is it not possible he is right about this? I haven't had cars that consume
> significant oil for quite a while so I couldn't say myself, but I have to
> credit his observation as "could be."
>
> Mike

I thought my reply was funny!

"No, it wasn't."

"Sure, it was. Its funny."

"No."

"damn..."

:~)>

"bob zee" <bobzee1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 12, 12:03 am, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
>> "bob zee" <bobz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > maybe /you/ need to cut the consumption
>> > before posting on the internet.
>>
>> > bob z.
>>
>> J.T. is a good source of info on a wide range of cars (not just Hondas.)
>> How
>> is it not possible he is right about this? I haven't had cars that
>> consume
>> significant oil for quite a while so I couldn't say myself, but I have to
>> credit his observation as "could be."
>>
>> Mike
>
> I thought my reply was funny!
>
> "No, it wasn't."
>
> "Sure, it was. Its funny."
>
> "No."
>
> "damn..."
>
> :~)>
>
>
>
>
>
I guess we have to get to know you better.

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "bob zee" <bobzee1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1178939655.321771.37680@w5g2000hsg.googlegrou ps.com...
>
>>On May 11, 9:45 am, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In my forty plus years of fiddlin' with cars, I have found Castrol to
>>>cut consumption by as much as 50% regardless of the type of car involved
>>>in ever case.
>>>
>>>Just like in politics, it's a case of, "Follow the money."
>>>
>>>It's just that simple...
>>
>>cut consumption by 50%? maybe /you/ need to cut the consumption
>>before posting on the internet.
>>
>>bob z.
>>
>>
>>
>
> J.T. is a good source of info on a wide range of cars (not just Hondas.) How
> is it not possible he is right about this? I haven't had cars that consume
> significant oil for quite a while so I couldn't say myself, but I have to
> credit his observation as "could be."
>
> Mike
>


In my varied experience, I've found Castrol to be the best and Quaker
State/Penzoil to be the worst.

Of course, seal condition etc. plays a greater role when it comes to
leakage.

OTOH, if one of my vintage Studebakers were to suddenly stop leaking,
i.e., no drip marks on the pavement... I would become very concerned
that it might be empty..

JT

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
<snip>
>
> OTOH, if one of my vintage Studebakers were to suddenly stop leaking,
> i.e., no drip marks on the pavement... I would become very concerned
> that it might be empty..
>
lol!

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> In my varied experience, I've found Castrol to be the best and Quaker
> State/Penzoil to be the worst.
>

My motorhead brother tells me to stay away from Havoline, that he's seen too
many engines with carbon deposits in its wake....

Mike

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
> news:kes1i.139980$VU4.136855@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>
>>
>>In my varied experience, I've found Castrol to be the best and Quaker
>>State/Penzoil to be the worst.
>>
>
>
> My motorhead brother tells me to stay away from Havoline, that he's seen too
> many engines with carbon deposits in its wake....
>
> Mike
>


Generally, I've found that most major oil company brands to be mediocre.

Castrol and probably the less promoted Valvoline are pretty near equal
on the high end with Penzoil and Quacker (pun intended) State rounding
out the bottom.

As for synthetics, I'm strictly RedLine which I use in trannies and
differentials...

JT

Thanks, Tegger, I went to the Wikipedia link, which led to another link, and
the resulting consensus seems to be:

1) Where possible, post to only one group, but

2) If there is a reason, it's OK to post to two and not more than three
groups, and

3) If I post to more than one group, I should take care to NOT "double post"
(what I did) but rather to "crosspost" such that the resulting messages will
show both groups in the header, and such that replies from either group will
go to both groups..

I understand the traffic problems that result from posting in more than one
group, especially if replies then go to more than one group.

But there is a special problem here: There are two Honda groups, not one.
And both get a lot of traffic. If I only post to one, 1/3 or more of the
Honda community won't see my post. Tegger, are you suggesting I should pick
just one group (maybe the one with the most traffic, or the one with the
least spam, or the one with the fewest unpleasant people) and limit my posts
to that one?

I do wish the two groups would combine into one, but as there is no
administrative mechanism to accomplish that, posting to two (in whatever is
the least objectionable way) seems the next best solution.

- Don

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Don Enderton" <Enderton@nosuchaddress.duh> wrote in
> news:sOI0i.5504$yM2.3404@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>
> Ah, I see we have yet another multi-posting newbie!
>
> Identical message posted independently to at least two groups.
>
> I have already supplied a sublime and penetrating response in the other
> group you posted to. Go find it. You know where it is (but nobody else
> does!).
>
> Oh, and you may wish to educate youself as to certain Usenet etiquette
> conventions, here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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