Honda Car Forum

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:56:47 -0600, pws wrote:

> Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
>
>> They were decent cars if you maintained them. I need a wagon or a van. I
>> have a really nice Mazda 626 Winter beater, but I would like a Subaru
>> AWD wagon, or a Toyota Corolla All-Trac, but a decent Sable or Taurus
>> would make the list, too...
>>
>> My preferences are: Toyota, then Subaru, then Ford. Actually, Ford kinda
>> ranks higher than Subaru, but I like AWD without having to drive an
>> SUV...
>
>
> Sounds like we think a lot alike. No SUV's here either, I'll take a wagon
> or a van if I actually need to move something big, but I would like AWD on
> a car, especially if I move to snow country.
>
> The Taurus also had/has a great crash rating, one that was tested when a
> friend's Taurus got T-boned by a truck at an intersection with his elderly
> grandfather on the impact side.
>
> There were some injuries, nothing too serious, but it probably would have
> been a fatality if he had been the passenger in my car in that situation.
>
> Pat


I used to sell used cars, and I had a loyal customer that used to buy all
my beaters. He picked up a '94 LHS for $600, stored it for a year, and
then GAVE it to me. Didn't have a use for it!

He also gave me a Grand Voyager AWD van. It was rough, but had few real
problems and had no heat. The engine sounded like it was going to explode
any second, but ran flawlessly! (Broken rocker tower, common on the 3.3L)

I finally killed it when I tried removing the water pump and broke a bunch
of different bolts off. I would have just yanked the engine and put in
another (I found an 80,000 mile motor for $200!) but the rack and pinion
was also on the way out, so I gave it to a guy down the street that has 4
of them...

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:35:15 +0000, Some O wrote:

> In article <Y2AJh.4006$8o1.3348@trndny01>,
> Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote:
>
>> My Supra is a powerful car, but think how much more powerful it would be
>> without all the weight the bells and whistles added to it!
> Todays cars are much heavier than in the past. Things like increased body
> stiffness, 6 spd transmissions, huge tires and multi valve engines add a
> lot of weight.


The Supra is an '88, but has the Sport Roof! Weighs in at an impressive
4400 lbs!!! No pushing this thing if it breaks down!

Wrongggggg. . Check the frame (if it has one) for the thickness of the steel. How much plastique did you see in older cars?
Christ they even had metal dashboards. And let's talk about new vehicle's bumpers.... if they have one. New cars are much
lighter than those from the 60's, 70's or even 80's.


"Some O" <SO@nospam.net> wrote in message news:SO-06A18C.10351513032007@news.telus.net...
: In article <Y2AJh.4006$8o1.3348@trndny01>,
: Hachiroku �n�`�ç�N <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote:
:
: > My Supra is a powerful car, but think how much more powerful it would be
: > without all the weight the bells and whistles added to it!
: Todays cars are much heavier than in the past.
: Things like increased body stiffness, 6 spd transmissions, huge tires
: and multi valve engines add a lot of weight.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:25:36 -0700, Fuller Rath wrote:

> Wrongggggg. . Check the frame (if it has one) for the thickness of the
> steel. How much plastique did you see in older cars? Christ they even had
> metal dashboards. And let's talk about new vehicle's bumpers.... if they
> have one. New cars are much lighter than those from the 60's, 70's or
> even 80's.


That is moslty mandated by Cafe standards rather than the market. But,
losing weight means better economy...



>
>
> "Some O" <SO@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:SO-06A18C.10351513032007@news.telus.net...
> : In article <Y2AJh.4006$8o1.3348@trndny01>,
> : Hachiroku �n�`�ç�N <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote:
> :
> : > My Supra is a powerful car, but think how much more powerful it would
> : > be without all the weight the bells and whistles added to it!
> : Todays cars are much heavier than in the past. Things like increased
> : body stiffness, 6 spd transmissions, huge tires and multi valve engines
> : add a lot of weight.

Oddly enough, Ford and GM both make AWESOME rear wheel drive V8 cars
for Australia, and they both make highly regarded subcompact cars for
Europe.

I would crap my pants with glee if we could get a Holden Commodore
(GM) or a Ford Falcon over here in America. Hell, I'd even buy a euro-
spec Focus. Unfortunately, for some reason, Ford and GM won't sell
their best cars here and we have to put up with crap like the Mondeo
and the Equinox. Blech.

"Will" <baslock@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173876408.665784.35300@o5g2000hsb.googlegrou ps.com...
| Oddly enough, Ford and GM both make AWESOME rear wheel drive V8 cars
| for Australia, and they both make highly regarded subcompact cars for
| Europe.
|
| I would crap my pants with glee if we could get a Holden Commodore
| (GM) or a Ford Falcon over here in America. Hell, I'd even buy a euro-
| spec Focus. Unfortunately, for some reason, Ford and GM won't sell
| their best cars here and we have to put up with crap like the Mondeo
| and the Equinox. Blech.
|


It's getting closer than you think... for a holden at least.


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