Honda Car Forum

kitty666r wrote:
> thanks for your help guys i appriciate it xx
>
> its a 1994 honda civic lsi,
>
>
> the fault code was code 16 they said it was due to the injectors, so i
> replaced the lot, it came up again ( 16 ) they said it was the ecu had
> that replaced... did the same,

of course it did the same - they didn't fix the problem. code 16 is
almost always main relay - the injector circuit makes ground through the
relay and if the relay's bad, the injectors don't connect and the ecu
sets an injector code. fix the relay and the problem will completely
disappear. all that money you spent on people that don't know hondas
was wasted. find a real honda specialist and ask them if they know
about main relay problems - don't say why, just ask the question as a
qualifier. if they don't know, move on until you find one that does.

>
> the fuel relay was bypassed in case it cut out the fuel for any reason

as raised by other posters - that is extremely extremely dangerous. if
you crash and burn, your family will get VERY rich from the resulting
lawsuit. get it fixed immediately.

> i think, its done 109,000 miles
> the distributer cap and rotor were also replaced,
>
> as for the once in a blue moon thing....
> i go on holiday for 2 weeks come back and it starts fine... after a
> week or so of smooth starting i go up the shop get something get in
> the car and chug chug chug doesnt start, it sounds ok on turning over
> it just wont kick in, i leave it for a coupl of minutes then it
> starts,
> its then fine for a week or so,
>
> when a mechanic has it in the garage he starts it every half hour for
> two days.... doesnt do it, after a few days of yet again smooth
> starting i drive to work 7 miles away, leave it for 8 hours then i try
> again wont start.. FOR AN HOUR rac comes out to rescue me, he arrives
> and oh... it starts as soon as he gets there!
>
> i couldnt put an exact time period say it does it every 12 days
> because its that unpredictable
> thankyou for all your suggestions i will print them out and shove them
> under hondas nose keep them coming it all helps!
>
> cheers for restoring my faith in guys :wink:
>
>
>
> "kitty666r" wrote:
> > [color=indigo:8b563e5bc9][/color:8b563e5bc9]
> > hey,
> > my civic has a " once in a blue moon " starting problem,
> > it doesnt matter what the weather is like,
> > it turns over fine but doesnt start,
> > the ecu light comes on=had it replaced it still does it,
> > its got;
> >
> > new plugs
> > new leads
> > new dizzy
> > new fuel filter
> > new fuel injectors
> > the fuel relay has been bypassed so that cancels that out
> >
> > took it to honda thay said the ecu codes were coming up as the
> > injector failing, got a new one,
> > then took it back
> > they said it was the ecu, had it changed.. now they dont want
> > to know,
> > it tends not to start when i need it the most,
> > specially in a petrol station! when everyones waiting!
> >
> > ive had so many mechanics look at it and theyve told me to
> > sell it, i dont want to cause ive got it how i like it ( boyed
> > up )
> >
> > honda say its got to be something to do with the wiring loom
> > whitch is going to cost �60 an hour for 2 days work.... TO GET
> > IT OUT!,
> > then a further 2 days to put it back in, i dont know whether
> > they are taking the piss or not?
> > it would be nice to speak to someone who isnt going to fob me
> > off for once and who honestly wants to help my sorry ass!
> >
> > let me know
> > cheers
> > :P kitty xxxx

kitty666r wrote:
> thanks for your help guys i appriciate it xx
>
> its a 1994 honda civic lsi,
>
>
> the fault code was code 16 they said it was due to the injectors, so i
> replaced the lot, it came up again ( 16 ) they said it was the ecu had
> that replaced... did the same,
>
> the fuel relay was bypassed in case it cut out the fuel for any reason
> i think, its done 109,000 miles
> the distributer cap and rotor were also replaced,
>
> as for the once in a blue moon thing....
> i go on holiday for 2 weeks come back and it starts fine... after a
> week or so of smooth starting i go up the shop get something get in
> the car and chug chug chug doesnt start, it sounds ok on turning over
> it just wont kick in, i leave it for a coupl of minutes then it
> starts,
> its then fine for a week or so,
>
> when a mechanic has it in the garage he starts it every half hour for
> two days.... doesnt do it, after a few days of yet again smooth
> starting i drive to work 7 miles away, leave it for 8 hours then i try
> again wont start.. FOR AN HOUR rac comes out to rescue me, he arrives
> and oh... it starts as soon as he gets there!
>
> i couldnt put an exact time period say it does it every 12 days
> because its that unpredictable
> thankyou for all your suggestions i will print them out and shove them
> under hondas nose keep them coming it all helps!
>
> cheers for restoring my faith in guys :wink:
>
>
>
> "kitty666r" wrote:
> > [color=indigo:8b563e5bc9][/color:8b563e5bc9]
> > hey,
> > my civic has a " once in a blue moon " starting problem,
> > it doesnt matter what the weather is like,
> > it turns over fine but doesnt start,
> > the ecu light comes on=had it replaced it still does it,
> > its got;
> >
> > new plugs
> > new leads
> > new dizzy
> > new fuel filter
> > new fuel injectors
> > the fuel relay has been bypassed so that cancels that out
> >
> > took it to honda thay said the ecu codes were coming up as the
> > injector failing, got a new one,
> > then took it back
> > they said it was the ecu, had it changed.. now they dont want
> > to know,
> > it tends not to start when i need it the most,
> > specially in a petrol station! when everyones waiting!
> >
> > ive had so many mechanics look at it and theyve told me to
> > sell it, i dont want to cause ive got it how i like it ( boyed
> > up )
> >
> > honda say its got to be something to do with the wiring loom
> > whitch is going to cost £60 an hour for 2 days work.... TO GET
> > IT OUT!,
> > then a further 2 days to put it back in, i dont know whether
> > they are taking the piss or not?
> > it would be nice to speak to someone who isnt going to fob me
> > off for once and who honestly wants to help my sorry ass!
> >
> > let me know
> > cheers
> > :P kitty xxxx
Hi there: I think that I am having the very same problem as you.
This problem has been ongoing for about 2 years and I have had no luck!
My car is a 1991 Honda Civic DX with 150,000 km. I have changed out the
following parts Plugs
Wires
Cap and rotor
cleaned and checked injectors
****The one thing I have noticed differently is that it never happens
when parked in the garage or in the shade and only happens in the winter
on a bright sunny day! I have believe the problem must be related to a
vapor lock or flooding. I have always been able to get it going
(eventually) by releasing the pressure in the tank and
waiting...........................
I hope this helps, if you have found a solution please let me know,
thanks: Eddie