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Old 15 Dec 2011, 08:06 am
Unquestionably Confused
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Default Valve clearance adjustment on 2006 Accord

2006 EX-L w/V6 and Auto. 79,000 miles. No oil consumption problems,
etc. All's well except for a bit of noise.

Of late I've noticed some "valve clatter" when it's cold. Quiets down
pretty much after reaching operating temperature. Took it in to my
mechanic (non-Honda shop) for oil change and tire rotation and asked him
to check it.

Owners manual specifies "valve clearance adjustment" ONLY WHEN NOISE IS
EXCESSIVE or verbiage to that effect. Mechanic said he noted a bit of
noise but none of the service books make mention of valve adjustment on
the V6's - only on the 4 cylinder.

Nothing I've seen in the various forum threads contradict this.

Am I missing something?
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Old 15 Dec 2011, 01:37 pm
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In article <4ee9ff04$0$29431$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com >,
Unquestionably Confused <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote:

> Owners manual specifies "valve clearance adjustment" ONLY WHEN NOISE IS
> EXCESSIVE or verbiage to that effect. Mechanic said he noted a bit of
> noise but none of the service books make mention of valve adjustment on
> the V6's - only on the 4 cylinder.
>
> Nothing I've seen in the various forum threads contradict this.
>
> Am I missing something?


Nope.

That's been Honda's talk track on the V6 for a long, long time.

The fact is, that's an expensive service item--and Honda is loathe to
specify an actual interval for that, because it makes them look bad in
the marketplace.

So they just don't specify it as a regular maintenance item.

Doesn't mean it isn't....
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Old 15 Dec 2011, 08:04 pm
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Default Re: Valve clearance adjustment on 2006 Accord

Unquestionably Confused <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in
news:4ee9ff04$0$29431$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews .com:

> 2006 EX-L w/V6 and Auto. 79,000 miles. No oil consumption problems,
> etc. All's well except for a bit of noise.
>
> Of late I've noticed some "valve clatter" when it's cold. Quiets down
> pretty much after reaching operating temperature.




That's more likely to be piston-slap. Shows up right around 70-90K.
Quite normal.



> Took it in to my mechanic (non-Honda shop) for oil change and tire
> rotation and asked him to check it.
>
> Owners manual specifies "valve clearance adjustment" ONLY WHEN NOISE
> IS EXCESSIVE or verbiage to that effect. Mechanic said he noted a bit
> of noise but none of the service books make mention of valve
> adjustment on the V6's - only on the 4 cylinder.



Valve-clearances can close as well as open, so noise is not a reliable
indicator of the need for adjustment. Whatever Honda says, periodic
checks are always a good idea. And they are easy to do, even on this
engine.


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Old 16 Dec 2011, 05:32 am
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Default Re: Valve clearance adjustment on 2006 Accord



"Tegger" wrote in message news:Xns9FBCD64CEC4B6tegger@208.90.168.18...

Unquestionably Confused <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in
news:4ee9ff04$0$29431$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews .com:

> 2006 EX-L w/V6 and Auto. 79,000 miles. No oil consumption problems,
> etc. All's well except for a bit of noise.
>
> Of late I've noticed some "valve clatter" when it's cold. Quiets down
> pretty much after reaching operating temperature.




That's more likely to be piston-slap. Shows up right around 70-90K.
Quite normal.



> Took it in to my mechanic (non-Honda shop) for oil change and tire
> rotation and asked him to check it.
>
> Owners manual specifies "valve clearance adjustment" ONLY WHEN NOISE
> IS EXCESSIVE or verbiage to that effect. Mechanic said he noted a bit
> of noise but none of the service books make mention of valve
> adjustment on the V6's - only on the 4 cylinder.



Valve-clearances can close as well as open, so noise is not a reliable
indicator of the need for adjustment. Whatever Honda says, periodic
checks are always a good idea. And they are easy to do, even on this
engine.


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Interesting. By contrast, my 06 I4 is as quiet and responsive at 90k as it
was when I bought it. Of course most of my driving is on I75 each day as I
go to work. I am on my 3rd battery, however, but that may be because of the
heat in middle GA.

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Old 16 Dec 2011, 07:32 pm
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Default Re: Valve clearance adjustment on 2006 Accord

On 12/15/2011 8:04 PM, Tegger wrote:
> Unquestionably Confused<puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in
> news:4ee9ff04$0$29431$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews .com:
>
>> 2006 EX-L w/V6 and Auto. 79,000 miles. No oil consumption problems,
>> etc. All's well except for a bit of noise.
>>
>> Of late I've noticed some "valve clatter" when it's cold. Quiets down
>> pretty much after reaching operating temperature.

>
>
>
> That's more likely to be piston-slap. Shows up right around 70-90K.
> Quite normal.


I take it that noise from BOTH piston slap and out of spec valve
clearances would abate as the engine warmed to operating temperature?

Thanks as always for your educational posts, Tegger!




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Old 16 Dec 2011, 08:27 pm
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Unquestionably Confused <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in news:4eebf13b$0
$17294$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com:

> On 12/15/2011 8:04 PM, Tegger wrote:
>> Unquestionably Confused<puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in
>> news:4ee9ff04$0$29431$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews .com:
>>
>>> 2006 EX-L w/V6 and Auto. 79,000 miles. No oil consumption problems,
>>> etc. All's well except for a bit of noise.
>>>
>>> Of late I've noticed some "valve clatter" when it's cold. Quiets down
>>> pretty much after reaching operating temperature.

>>
>>
>>
>> That's more likely to be piston-slap. Shows up right around 70-90K.
>> Quite normal.

>
> I take it that noise from BOTH piston slap and out of spec valve
> clearances would abate as the engine warmed to operating temperature?



The piston-slap, yes. The valve-clearances, not necessarily.

I'm not at all sure why Honda says to check only if there's excessive
noise. Honda describes itself as an "engine company", so they MUST know
that clearances can CLOSE as well as OPEN. Being an engineery-type myself,
one reason I gravitated to Honda was its focus on engineering. So this
don't-check-unless-there's-noise thing is a bit jarring to me.


>
> Thanks as always for your educational posts, Tegger!
>



I try.


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Old 16 Dec 2011, 08:59 pm
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On 12/16/2011 8:27 PM, Tegger wrote:
> Unquestionably Confused<puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in news:4eebf13b$0
> $17294$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com:
>
>> On 12/15/2011 8:04 PM, Tegger wrote:

[snip]
>
>>
>> Thanks as always for your educational posts, Tegger!
>>

>
>
> I try.


And more often than not succeed!<g>
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Old 17 Dec 2011, 04:36 am
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In article <Xns9FBDDA43DFCB1tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote:

> Being an engineery-type myself,
> one reason I gravitated to Honda was its focus on engineering. So this
> don't-check-unless-there's-noise thing is a bit jarring to me.


For the last 15 years, it's had zero to do with engineering.

I keep saying it: read Car Guys Vs. Bean Counters.
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Old 17 Dec 2011, 10:32 am
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On 12/17/2011 02:36 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<Xns9FBDDA43DFCB1tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger<invalid@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Being an engineery-type myself,
>> one reason I gravitated to Honda was its focus on engineering. So this
>> don't-check-unless-there's-noise thing is a bit jarring to me.

>
> For the last 15 years, it's had zero to do with engineering.
>
> I keep saying it: read Car Guys Vs. Bean Counters.


ok, i've NOT read this book, but i've browsed bits on amazon, and the
impression i get is that while it appeals to emotions, he's blowing
smoke in the hugest self-aggrandizing self-ego-stroking way.

if you look under the hood at the vehicles produced under his
leadership, they're poorly designed, poorly specified and poorly
executed in the most spectacular bean counting way. as an engineer and
materials guy, i can tell you this for fact.

so, if by "car guy" me means kids with crayons and modeling clay
knocking up concepts that look good so they can make a big song and
dance about it to the media, then sure. but if he means people under
the hood that know how to make a decent quality casting, who know why
leaf springs suck, and how to configure components so there's room to
get at a spark plug for maintenance or provide anything other than a
poorly accessed slide to adjust an accessory belt, then no "car guy"
ever walked his factory floors. or sat his board room table.


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Old 17 Dec 2011, 11:56 am
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In article <jcig7n$hu0$1@speranza.aioe.org>, jim beam <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

> > I keep saying it: read Car Guys Vs. Bean Counters.

>
> ok, i've NOT read this book, but i've browsed bits on amazon, and the
> impression i get is that while it appeals to emotions, he's blowing
> smoke in the hugest self-aggrandizing self-ego-stroking way.
>
> if you look under the hood at the vehicles produced under his
> leadership, they're poorly designed, poorly specified and poorly
> executed in the most spectacular bean counting way. as an engineer and
> materials guy, i can tell you this for fact.
>
> so, if by "car guy" me means kids with crayons and modeling clay
> knocking up concepts that look good so they can make a big song and
> dance about it to the media, then sure. but if he means people under
> the hood that know how to make a decent quality casting, who know why
> leaf springs suck, and how to configure components so there's room to
> get at a spark plug for maintenance or provide anything other than a
> poorly accessed slide to adjust an accessory belt, then no "car guy"
> ever walked his factory floors. or sat his board room table.


By "car guys" he's talking about people who made cars that the public
wanted, on many levels, to buy. They may or may not have been
engineers, but they were responsible for producing a product that was
lusted after.

By "beancounters" he's talking about who took over that responsibility.

Read the whole book, not just bits of it. You'll see.
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