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Old 25 Jan 2007, 09:25 pm
kp23
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I drive a 1991 Honda Accord LX and i have had to have the rotors
replaced or turned almost every year since Ive owned the car (5
years). Is this normal or is something else causing this? It is hard
to believe that my rotors are warped this much. The vibrating now is
usually while driving and then worsens when i brake.

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Old 25 Jan 2007, 09:27 pm
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Default Re: brake problems

whose rotors are you using?
If youre using offshore stuff, its really cheap, but costs in the
long run

"kp23" wrote
> I drive a 1991 Honda Accord LX and i have had to have the
> rotors replaced or turned almost every year since I've owned
> the car (5 years). Is this normal or is something else causing
> this? It is hard to believe that my rotors are warped this
> much. The vibrating now is usually while driving and then
> worsens when i brake.

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Old 26 Jan 2007, 02:32 am
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kp23 wrote:
>
> I drive a 1991 Honda Accord LX and i have had to have the rotors
> replaced or turned almost every year since Ive owned the car (5
> years). Is this normal or is something else causing this? It is hard
> to believe that my rotors are warped this much. The vibrating now is
> usually while driving and then worsens when i brake.
>


Have you had the calipers replaced?

Eric
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Old 26 Jan 2007, 02:51 am
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kp23 <none@000.com> wrote in news:966619_
07eea04c965a3b5ffd2dd5035319f90c@autoboardz.com:

> I drive a 1991 Honda Accord LX and i have had to have the rotors
> replaced or turned almost every year since Ive owned the car (5
> years). Is this normal or is something else causing this? It is hard
> to believe that my rotors are warped this much. The vibrating now is
> usually while driving and then worsens when i brake.
>



See this excellent and comprehensive writeup:
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm

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Old 26 Jan 2007, 07:25 pm
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Default Re: Re: brake problems

I put cheap rotors on my Accord a year ago ...and they are causing
pedal pulsation.Warped..
But Ill wait for a bit, because its a real pain to change them.

"Eric" wrote
> kp23 wrote:
> >
> > I drive a 1991 Honda Accord LX and i have had to have the

> rotors
> > replaced or turned almost every year since Ive owned the

> car (5
> > years). Is this normal or is something else causing this? It

> is hard
> > to believe that my rotors are warped this much. The

> vibrating now is
> > usually while driving and then worsens when i brake.
> >

>
> Have you had the calipers replaced?
>
> Eric


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Old 26 Jan 2007, 08:07 pm
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weasel wrote:
> I put cheap rotors on my Accord a year ago ...and they are causing
> pedal pulsation.Warped..
> But Ill wait for a bit, because its a real pain to change them..


==========================

There was a very good discussion last fall (with links to various sites)
that dispelled the 'warped' theory (for me). Crap from the pads sticks
to the rotor making it glazed, which makes it grabby. Cure wasn't easy,
but possible.

Best explanation I've seen yet.

Anybody have that link ? ? ??

'Curly'
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Old 26 Jan 2007, 08:18 pm
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motsco_ wrote:
> weasel wrote:
>> I put cheap rotors on my Accord a year ago ...and they are causing
>> pedal pulsation.Warped..
>> But I�ll wait for a bit, because it�s a real pain to change them..

>
> ==========================
>
> There was a very good discussion last fall (with links to various sites)
> that dispelled the 'warped' theory (for me). Crap from the pads sticks
> to the rotor making it glazed, which makes it grabby. Cure wasn't easy,
> but possible.


that can happen, but it's not the sole cause.

>
> Best explanation I've seen yet.
>
> Anybody have that link ? ? ??
>
> 'Curly'

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Old 26 Jan 2007, 10:25 pm
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Oh, thanks! now I dont have to feel guilty about cheaping out and
installing "value" rotors!
Perhaps cheap rotors and ceramic pads would be a good compromise!
--Pau

"motsco_" wrote
> weasel wrote:
> > I put cheap rotors on my Accord a year ago ...and they are

> causing
> > pedal pulsation.Warped..
> > But Ill wait for a bit, because its a real pain to change

> them..
>
> ==========================
>
> There was a very good discussion last fall (with links to
> various sites)
> that dispelled the 'warped' theory (for me). Crap from the
> pads sticks
> to the rotor making it glazed, which makes it grabby. Cure
> wasn't easy,
> but possible.
>
> Best explanation I've seen yet.
>
> Anybody have that link ? ? ??
>
> 'Curly'


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Old 27 Jan 2007, 06:39 am
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jim beam wrote:
>
> motsco_ wrote:
> > weasel wrote:
> >> I put cheap rotors on my Accord a year ago ...and they are causing
> >> pedal pulsation.Warped..
> >> But I�ll wait for a bit, because it�s a real pain to change them..

> >
> > ==========================
> >
> > There was a very good discussion last fall (with links to various sites)
> > that dispelled the 'warped' theory (for me). Crap from the pads sticks
> > to the rotor making it glazed, which makes it grabby. Cure wasn't easy,
> > but possible.

>
> that can happen, but it's not the sole cause.
>


It also would not explain physically measuring the warp with a run-out
gauge. I've measured rotors that had 0.003" - 0.005" or more of warp.

Eric
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Old 27 Jan 2007, 07:26 am
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> motsco_ wrote:
>>
>> There was a very good discussion last fall (with links to various sites)
>> that dispelled the 'warped' theory (for me). Crap from the pads sticks to
>> the rotor making it glazed, which makes it grabby. Cure wasn't easy, but
>> possible.

>
> that can happen, but it's not the sole cause.
>


That's my take on pedal pulsations: there are probably multiple defects that
have the same symptoms... or at least close enough to the same that we don't
notice. My brakes worked a lot better after I started using a torque wrench
on the lug nuts.

Mike


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