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Old 12 Jan 2007, 12:47 pm
mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com
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I have a 95 civic ex 5 speed manual. I'm putting in a push button
start, but I'm not sure what wires to tap into. I have a test light and
I'm pretty good with electrical, but does anyone know the exact wire
colors to tap into on the ignition. I have my haynes manual, but I'm
not to good a reading these diagrams. If anyone knows the wires it
would help. I already have to button mounted and I'm going to put an
in-line fuse instead of a relay and if anyone knows the exact wire
colors to tap into. it would help thanks.

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Old 12 Jan 2007, 02:54 pm
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<mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 95 civic ex 5 speed manual. I'm putting in a push button
> start, but I'm not sure what wires to tap into. I have a test light and
> I'm pretty good with electrical, but does anyone know the exact wire
> colors to tap into on the ignition. I have my haynes manual, but I'm
> not to good a reading these diagrams. If anyone knows the wires it
> would help. I already have to button mounted and I'm going to put an
> in-line fuse instead of a relay and if anyone knows the exact wire
> colors to tap into. it would help thanks.


I no longer have them memorized, but here is how you figure it out for ANY
car...

Stop using a test light! They are only good for circuits that you know you
can safely work on with a load. This particular project a test light is
fine for, but what about your next project? Probe the wrong wire with a
test light and you fry a circuit. When in doubt, use a multimeter.

Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a bundle of
wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for under a dash)
usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the key is in the crank
position.

Other wires in that bundle...

Constant 12v - Always 12v
Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want to
power unnecessary items during crank)
Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed during
RUN and CRANK)

Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out (or
probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.


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Old 12 Jan 2007, 06:39 pm
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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<snip>


>
> Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> key is in the crank position.
>
> Other wires in that bundle...
>
> Constant 12v - Always 12v
> Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> to power unnecessary items during crank)
> Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> during RUN and CRANK)
>
> Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
>
>




Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.

If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html

A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
ACC terminal "IG2".


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Old 12 Jan 2007, 10:00 pm
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Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> newsASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.

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Old 12 Jan 2007, 10:00 pm
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Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> newsASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.

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Old 12 Jan 2007, 10:01 pm
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Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> newsASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.

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Old 12 Jan 2007, 10:08 pm
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mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com wrote in
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>
> Tegger wrote:


>>
>>
>> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>>
>> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires
>> do, see the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
>> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>>
>> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda
>> calls the ACC terminal "IG2".
>>
>>

>
>
>
> So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
> hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
> correct.
>



If you're asking these sorts of questions after all the advice you've been
given, I would advise you get a qualified mechanic to hook up your
button-start.


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Old 12 Jan 2007, 10:12 pm
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Tegger wrote:
> mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com wrote in
> news:1168660848.547168.321960@38g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> >
> > Tegger wrote:

>
> >>
> >>
> >> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
> >>
> >> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires
> >> do, see the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> >> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> >> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> >> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
> >>
> >> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda
> >> calls the ACC terminal "IG2".
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> > So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
> > hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
> > correct.
> >

>
>
> If you're asking these sorts of questions after all the advice you've been
> given, I would advise you get a qualified mechanic to hook up your
> button-start.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




No. I'm a pretty good mechanic, but I'm just making sure. cause I know
how to do it. but why not get any info from ppl who have done it before.

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Old 12 Jan 2007, 10:18 pm
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mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com wrote in
>> news:1168660848.547168.321960@38g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>>>>
>>>> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires
>>>> do, see the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
>>>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
>>>> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
>>>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>>>>
>>>> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda
>>>> calls the ACC terminal "IG2".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
>>> hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
>>> correct.
>>>

>>
>> If you're asking these sorts of questions after all the advice you've been
>> given, I would advise you get a qualified mechanic to hook up your
>> button-start.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
>
>
> No. I'm a pretty good mechanic, but I'm just making sure. cause I know
> how to do it. but why not get any info from ppl who have done it before.
>

not the best forum - not many people on this group are into
non-functional stuff like that.
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Old 13 Jan 2007, 12:20 am
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<mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Tegger wrote:
>> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> newsASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
>> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
>> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
>> > key is in the crank position.
>> >
>> > Other wires in that bundle...
>> >
>> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
>> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
>> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
>> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
>> > during RUN and CRANK)
>> >
>> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
>> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
>> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>
>> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>>
>> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do,
>> see
>> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
>> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>>
>> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls
>> the
>> ACC terminal "IG2".
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
>
>
> So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
> hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
> correct.


No.

You want the ONE wire that is hot during crank but DEAD at the IGN position.


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