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Old 12 Jan 2007, 12:30 am
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What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire?

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Old 12 Jan 2007, 08:06 am
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Guest wrote:
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> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on
> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire
> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire?


how do you know it would melt? how much current is it conducting?
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Old 12 Jan 2007, 08:52 am
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jim beam wrote:
> Guest wrote:
>>
>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on
>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire
>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire?

>
> how do you know it would melt? how much current is it conducting?


Uh, it COULD be due to the fact that he reverse connections earlier this
month and blew a fuse. Then, after reconnecting it properly (he says),
he had still more problems.

Frankly, while I believe everyone should learn how to do this simple
stuff, I'm glad he's "learning" on his own vehicle and not someone
else's. I hope that's the case anyway.

Search back on his posts. The best recommendation for him MIGHT be to
find somebody who knows what they're doing and have them do it for him/her.

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Old 12 Jan 2007, 11:30 am
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> Guest wrote:
>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on
>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire was
>> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire?

>
> how do you know it would melt?


Well it melted twice now.

how much current is it conducting?

That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v.


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Old 12 Jan 2007, 11:33 am
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> jim beam wrote:
>> Guest wrote:
>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on
>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire
>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire?

>>
>> how do you know it would melt? how much current is it conducting?

>
> Uh, it COULD be due to the fact that he reverse connections earlier this
> month and blew a fuse. Then, after reconnecting it properly (he says), he
> had still more problems.
>
> Frankly, while I believe everyone should learn how to do this simple
> stuff, I'm glad he's "learning" on his own vehicle and not someone else's.
> I hope that's the case anyway.
>
> Search back on his posts. The best recommendation for him MIGHT be to
> find somebody who knows what they're doing and have them do it for
> him/her.
>


Well the Honda dealer would not touch it since it is an after market
spoiler. I also feel that the guy did not know anything since he had little
words. I think he was new.

All I am asking about are wire types or why this thin LED light wire keeps
melting. Right now I bought some in-line fuses to see what happens next.
After that I will not have any wire left to try it once more. Could wire
length have anything to do with it? This wire was very long.


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Old 12 Jan 2007, 12:37 pm
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>> Guest wrote:
>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on
>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire
>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire?

>>
>> how do you know it would melt?

>
> Well it melted twice now.
>
> how much current is it conducting?
>
> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v.
>


Let's start with the wire size. Locate the fuse the circuit is getting power
from. If the fuse is 5A or less, you can use 22 guage wire or larger. At 10A
use 18 guage wire or larger; for a 20A fuse use 16 guage wire. The fuse
exists to protect the wire, and if the wire is melting you already have a
problem.

The LED bar itself should be drawing well under 5 amps. The overheating wire
is a good indication the wiring between the melted wire and the light is
bad; shorted or backward, that sort of thing.

Both situations need to be corrected before you drive safely and happily.
Definitely get the wire size corrected, or you could have a car fire. No
fun.

Mike


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Old 12 Jan 2007, 01:20 pm
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:30:50 +0000, Guest wrote:

>> how much current is it conducting?


> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v.


Your response is all the reason to believe that you should not be doing
this work yourself...
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Old 12 Jan 2007, 01:55 pm
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Guest wrote:
> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on
> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire
> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire?


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LED's are light-emitting DIODES, and if you've ever run juice through a
diode backwards, they may be shorted, which will keep on blowing up the
wiring, no matter if its thin or heavier.

Remove the + and ground connections from your car and try powering the
diodes directly from another 12 V source, like a different battery. Put
a fuse in the line (as you suggested) or just a tail light bulb (way
better), since the LED's are supposed to take way less current than a
light bulb and if the light comes on bright, you know the diodes are
indeed shorted to death.

Don't bother trying a battery charger as your power source. . many don't
put out any power unless they are connected to a half-ways alive battery.

'Curly'
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Old 12 Jan 2007, 07:27 pm
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Default Re: Spoiler LED Wire type

> Guest wrote:
>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on
>>> >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire was
>>> >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire?
>> >
>> > how do you know it would melt?

>
> Well it melted twice now.
>
> how much current is it conducting?
>
> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v.
>


ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit.
total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring
it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike,
failure to fix could lead to a car fire.

volts are different to amps.
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Old 12 Jan 2007, 07:56 pm
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jim beam wrote:
> > Guest wrote:
>>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED
>>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the
>>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper
>>>> speaker wire?
>>> >
>>> > how do you know it would melt?

>>
>> Well it melted twice now.
>>
>> how much current is it conducting?
>>
>> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v.

>
> ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit.
> total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring
> it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike,
> failure to fix could lead to a car fire.


Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response).

As written by Guest on 1/09/2007

"I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the
light did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in
reverse and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected
the problem and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a
splitter for the cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar
detector and a cell hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the
lot, I noticed that the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged
the splitter in the socket before I started the car up. I checked and
the wires were melted again and were still very warm to the touch. This
time, the fuse was not blown. "

Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away
from electrical devices.
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