Honda Car Forum

Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil on floor & took it to nearest
Honda dealer, not the one I bought it from as I did not want to drive too
far not knowing the cause of the leak. Tentively diagnosed as rear main
engine seal leak. Dealer rep told me NOT to drive it home to wait for the
parts to come in as I might experience other problems. Parts to be ordered
1/2/07.

The rear main engine seal was replaced on 1/4/07 and on 1/6 I found oil on
the garage floor. This repair was done by the closest Honda dealer not the
one I bought the car from. Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
in order to possibly qualify for replacement or money back under the Lemon
Law?

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:48:04 GMT, "Norm" <ntaer@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil on floor & took it to nearest
>Honda dealer, not the one I bought it from as I did not want to drive too
>far not knowing the cause of the leak. Tentively diagnosed as rear main
>engine seal leak. Dealer rep told me NOT to drive it home to wait for the
>parts to come in as I might experience other problems. Parts to be ordered
>1/2/07.
>
>The rear main engine seal was replaced on 1/4/07 and on 1/6 I found oil on
>the garage floor. This repair was done by the closest Honda dealer not the
>one I bought the car from. Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
>in order to possibly qualify for replacement or money back under the Lemon
>Law?
>

Lemon Laws vary from state to state. I doubt if it matters which
dealer you use as the law usually applies to the manufacturer.
However, unless you have reason to think that this dealer has an
incompetent service department, I would go back to them.

Your goal should be to get it fixed rather that use the lemon law.
That said, three unsuccessful attempts at the same repair is a common
standard for triggering the lemon law. you need to check your state's
laws.

Norm wrote:
>
> Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil on floor & took it to nearest
> Honda dealer, not the one I bought it from as I did not want to drive too
> far not knowing the cause of the leak. Tentively diagnosed as rear main
> engine seal leak. Dealer rep told me NOT to drive it home to wait for the
> parts to come in as I might experience other problems. Parts to be ordered
> 1/2/07.
>
> The rear main engine seal was replaced on 1/4/07 and on 1/6 I found oil on
> the garage floor. This repair was done by the closest Honda dealer not the
> one I bought the car from. Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
> in order to possibly qualify for replacement or money back under the Lemon
> Law?

It's possible that there was oil left somewhere on the engine or, if the
initial leak was large enough, back behind the engine under the car. I've
seen leaks from head gaskets that were allowed to go on so long that there
was oil half way down the car underneath. Anyways, if the dealer where the
repair was done didn't steam clean the engine, then it could be a source for
the new oil spots. If that's the case, then take it back and get it
cleaned. Afterwards, keep a watch out for oil drops as well as regularly
checking the oil level. For what it's worth, stick with the dealer that did
the repair and make sure they get it done right (if it was me, I wouldn't
try to fall back on the lemon law just yet).

Eric

"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:48:04 GMT, "Norm" <ntaer@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil on floor & took it to nearest
>>Honda dealer, not the one I bought it from as I did not want to drive too
>>far not knowing the cause of the leak. Tentively diagnosed as rear main
>>engine seal leak. Dealer rep told me NOT to drive it home to wait for the
>>parts to come in as I might experience other problems. Parts to be ordered
>>1/2/07.
>>
>>The rear main engine seal was replaced on 1/4/07 and on 1/6 I found oil on
>>the garage floor. This repair was done by the closest Honda dealer not the
>>one I bought the car from. Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
>>in order to possibly qualify for replacement or money back under the Lemon
>>Law?
>>
>
> Lemon Laws vary from state to state. I doubt if it matters which
> dealer you use as the law usually applies to the manufacturer.
> However, unless you have reason to think that this dealer has an
> incompetent service department, I would go back to them.
>
> Your goal should be to get it fixed rather that use the lemon law.
> That said, three unsuccessful attempts at the same repair is a common
> standard for triggering the lemon law. you need to check your state's
> laws.

Apparently, here in Arizona, the lemon law applies to safety related defects
only.

In any event, I agree that recurrences of a single problem are not a reason
to even think about the lemon law. If the problem is a part failure, the
first repair is very likely to fix the problem and the second is almost
certain (if the problem is properly identified). If the problem is in
design, replacing the whole vehicle will not improve your situation. If the
problem is in identifying the problem, the same applies.

Mike

Norm wrote:

>
> The rear main engine seal was replaced on 1/4/07 and on 1/6 I found oil on
> the garage floor. This repair was done by the closest Honda dealer not the
> one I bought the car from. Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
> in order to possibly qualify for replacement or money back under the Lemon
> Law?

I have seen the seal leak because the crank was causing the problem.
Leak stopped when the crank was replaced. Customer was back four times
before it was fixed for good. bob

Norm wrote:
> Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil on floor & took it to nearest
> Honda dealer, not the one I bought it from as I did not want to drive too
> far not knowing the cause of the leak. Tentively diagnosed as rear main
> engine seal leak. Dealer rep told me NOT to drive it home to wait for the
> parts to come in as I might experience other problems. Parts to be ordered
> 1/2/07.
>
> The rear main engine seal was replaced on 1/4/07 and on 1/6 I found oil on
> the garage floor. This repair was done by the closest Honda dealer not the
> one I bought the car from. Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
> in order to possibly qualify for replacement or money back under the Lemon
> Law?
>
>

I would go back to the dealer which did the repair.

So far you are nowhere near lemon law status under any of the state laws
I am familiar with. One problem which may or may not have been
properly repaired does not make a car a lemon.