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Old 06 Jan 2007, 07:24 am
Truble
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Default Accord V-Tec Engine

I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a
friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great and
has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the
leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the 3
year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car and
did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the car
now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about how
much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd appreciate
any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to
make a stupid mistake.

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Old 06 Jan 2007, 08:57 am
jim beam
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Truble wrote:
> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a
> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great and
> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the
> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the 3
> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car and
> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the car
> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about how
> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd appreciate
> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to
> make a stupid mistake.
>

first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule is
for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance undertaken?
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Old 06 Jan 2007, 10:21 am
L Alpert
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Truble wrote:
>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a
>> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great
>> and
>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the
>> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the
>> 3
>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car
>> and
>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the
>> car
>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about
>> how
>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd
>> appreciate
>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to
>> make a stupid mistake.
>>

> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule is for
> that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance undertaken?


One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service
schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern. There may
not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the probability for future
issues would be higher.



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Old 06 Jan 2007, 10:23 am
Kenneth J. Harris
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Default Re: Accord V-Tec Engine

We have a 2003 Accord EX and the oil change interval suggested for
"normal" service is 7500 miles. I've always used the severe service
interval of 3750 miles (approximately). So, to me it seems like the oil
has not been changed often enough.

Ken

Truble wrote:
> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a
> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great and
> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the
> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the 3
> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car and
> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the car
> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about how
> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd appreciate
> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to
> make a stupid mistake.
>

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Old 06 Jan 2007, 12:56 pm
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L Alpert wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> Truble wrote:
>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a
>>> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great
>>> and
>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the
>>> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the
>>> 3
>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car
>>> and
>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the
>>> car
>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about
>>> how
>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd
>>> appreciate
>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to
>>> make a stupid mistake.
>>>

>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule is for
>> that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance undertaken?

>
> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service
> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern. There may
> not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the probability for future
> issues would be higher.


ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that vehicle?
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Old 06 Jan 2007, 01:18 pm
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jim beam wrote:
> L Alpert wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> Truble wrote:
>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a
>>>> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks
>>>> great and
>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with
>>>> the
>>>> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during
>>>> the 3
>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the
>>>> car and
>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy
>>>> the car
>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice
>>>> about how
>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd
>>>> appreciate
>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't
>>>> want to
>>>> make a stupid mistake.
>>>>
>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule is
>>> for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance undertaken?

>>
>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service
>> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern.
>> There may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the probability
>> for future issues would be higher.

>
> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that vehicle?


and i should have added, "what is the basis for the leasing company's
information?" if it's only been serviced at the dealer once, but
serviced at an independent other times, the leasing company would never
know about the latter.
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Old 06 Jan 2007, 01:35 pm
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jim beam wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> L Alpert wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>> Truble wrote:
>>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine
>>>>> that a
>>>>> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks
>>>>> great and
>>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal
>>>>> with the
>>>>> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once
>>>>> during the 3
>>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the
>>>>> car and
>>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy
>>>>> the car
>>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice
>>>>> about how
>>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd
>>>>> appreciate
>>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't
>>>>> want to
>>>>> make a stupid mistake.
>>>>>
>>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule
>>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance undertaken?
>>>
>>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service
>>> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern.
>>> There may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the
>>> probability for future issues would be higher.

>>
>> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that vehicle?


You're apparently not reading the responses OR the original question.

Ken Harris, who also owns a 2003 V-Tec said that the recommended change
for "normal" driving comes at 7,500mi but he uses "severe" at 3,750mi to
stay ahead of the game.


> and i should have added, "what is the basis for the leasing company's
> information?" if it's only been serviced at the dealer once, but
> serviced at an independent other times, the leasing company would never
> know about the latter.


Please re-read Truble's original post which you requoted above. He's
buying a friend's car off lease and SHE told him that SHE only changed
the oil once during the 26,500 miles she drove it. Ergo, in the kindest
of worlds, she ran it to 13,250 miles before touching the oil.

Truble you should probably ask her WHEN she changed it. If she's
beaming and telling you "you won't have to change the oil since I just
changed it 2,000 miles ago when I noticed it was really low" you may
want to "walk on by." If she tells you that she found that she had to
add a quart every 3,000 - 5,000 miles with an oil and filter change at
13,000 then maybe it'll be okay.


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Old 06 Jan 2007, 01:39 pm
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jim beam wrote:
> L Alpert wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> Truble wrote:
>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine
>>>> that a friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the
>>>> car looks great and
>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal
>>>> with the leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil
>>>> once during the 3
>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on
>>>> the car and
>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy
>>>> the car
>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice
>>>> about how
>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd
>>>> appreciate
>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't
>>>> want to make a stupid mistake.
>>>>
>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule
>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance
>>> undertaken?

>>
>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service
>> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern. There
>> may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the
>> probability for future issues would be higher.

>
> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that vehicle?


3750 severe, 7500 normal, as Mr Harris has already alluded to. 1 change in
26K miles is well beyond any service schedule for any vehicle that I have
ever owned or investigated or for any synthetics that I have looked at.



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Old 06 Jan 2007, 01:43 pm
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jim beam wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> L Alpert wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>> Truble wrote:
>>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine
>>>>> that a friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the
>>>>> car looks great and
>>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal
>>>>> with the
>>>>> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once
>>>>> during the 3
>>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on
>>>>> the car and
>>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy
>>>>> the car
>>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice
>>>>> about how
>>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd
>>>>> appreciate
>>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't
>>>>> want to
>>>>> make a stupid mistake.
>>>>>
>>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule
>>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance
>>>> undertaken?
>>>
>>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service
>>> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern.
>>> There may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the
>>> probability for future issues would be higher.

>>
>> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that
>> vehicle?

>
> and i should have added, "what is the basis for the leasing company's
> information?" if it's only been serviced at the dealer once, but
> serviced at an independent other times, the leasing company would
> never know about the latter.


If you read the initial post, he states that "she" (assuming the "she" that
leased the vehicle is one and the same "she" he refers to as to giving him
this information) stated the oil was only changed once.

The leasing company was the party he was arranging the financial aspects of
the deal with.


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Old 06 Jan 2007, 02:24 pm
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When in a lease, isn't one required to perform all scheduled maintenance and
present records when surrendering the car the end of the lease ? Otherwise
will incur "excessive wear and tear" charges ?

Just asking... never leased a vehicle before, but always assumed it was safe
to buy a previously leased car - at least as far as maintenance is
concerned. Well, not anymore ...

Regards,
Stan


"Truble" <u30733@uwe> wrote in message news:6be103d0b51de@uwe...
>I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a
> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great
> and
> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the
> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the 3
> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car
> and
> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the car
> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about
> how
> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd
> appreciate
> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to
> make a stupid mistake.
>



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