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Old 07 Nov 2011, 10:45 pm
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Default Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

I need to travel to the east coast and work from there for a duration
of 5 months. I can leave my car in covered parking here and ask a
friend to start the car for a few minutes every week.

What possible issues could I face with the car maintenance when I
return? Or what issues can arise since the car will be non-operable
for a long period?

The car is a Honda Civic 2008 in good condition.

Also, I have the option of shipping the car to east coast - but it
would cost me anywhere from 850 - 1000 dollars.

Thanks in advance,
Vivekian
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Old 07 Nov 2011, 10:54 pm
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Default Re: Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

On 11/07/2011 08:45 PM, vivekian wrote:
> I need to travel to the east coast and work from there for a duration
> of 5 months. I can leave my car in covered parking here and ask a
> friend to start the car for a few minutes every week.
>
> What possible issues could I face with the car maintenance when I
> return? Or what issues can arise since the car will be non-operable
> for a long period?
>
> The car is a Honda Civic 2008 in good condition.
>
> Also, I have the option of shipping the car to east coast - but it
> would cost me anywhere from 850 - 1000 dollars.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Vivekian


running it for a few minutes regularly can be very problematic - it
won't get hot enough to self-clean and it'll quickly coke up. not to
mention exhaust moisture accumulating in the oil and high gasoline
mixture diluting the oil film on cylinder walls.

personally, i'd run it until the tank was near empty, change the oil so
you're leaving it clean, disconnect the battery and just leave it. when
you come to re-start, fill the tank with fresh gas, and maybe change the
oil again [although personally, i probably wouldn't], reconnect the
battery, and drive away.

you'll also be best advised to put the battery on a smart charger that
de-sulfates. if you google this group, you'll see different brands
recommended based on users personal experience.


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Old 08 Nov 2011, 12:41 am
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Default Re: Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

Why not drive to the east coast? I've driven across the country more than twenty times and I always prefer it to anything else. I used to drive fromDallas to Sacramento for the Traditional Jazz Jubilee every year. Dallas to St. Louis for the Ozarks Jazz fest. Sacramento to Columbus, Ohio, etc. My company shipped my car (they get group rates,) so I let them ship one and drove the other. My son graduated from the USMC boot camp in San Diego and we flew. Pack the car, go down to the airport. Unpack the car. Wait for the bus. Pack the bus. Gio to the terminal. Unpack the bus. Truck to the check-in. Walk to the gate. Take off the shoes, the belt, the cellphone, the change. Go through the scanner. Pick up the stuff, make it to the gate, wait, wait, wait. The plane is always late to be loaded. Just try to pack something in the overhead before Joe Blow and Sally Schmoe fills it with three bags, which is a no-no, but no one cares. Shuffle over some fat person, who has already put the seat divider up so they can spread theirfat over your seat, then get kicked by the kid in the back. Late taking off, only a little turbulence which makes them not serve anything, and late landing, late to the gate, late for the baggage, toe them bags then late tothe shuttle to the rental car, which is, of course, several miles away from the San Diego airport. Tote those bags, Wait in the line. Get some non-nondescript car. Tote those bags. Note all the dings on the car, which ishard because it is now night. Try to exit. Wait in line. Get on the exit from the airport and just try to get out. Get out on the freeway and try to find the motel. Find the motel. Tote the bags.

On the other hand, when we went down for his advanced graduation, we packedthe bags in the car, and drove down Interstate 5 directly to the hotel. It took less time and we felt a whole lot better.
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Old 08 Nov 2011, 08:55 am
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Default Re: Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

On Nov 7, 10:41*pm, billzz <bil...@wildblue.net> wrote:
> Why not drive to the east coast?


Not really an option. I am the only driver and its a 2600 mile
distance.
Also I can't get a vacation right now.

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Old 08 Nov 2011, 09:47 am
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On 11/8/11 1:41 AM, billzz wrote:
> Why not drive to the east coast? I've driven across the country more than twenty times and I always prefer it to anything else. I used to drive from Dallas to Sacramento for the Traditional Jazz Jubilee every year. Dallas to St. Louis for the Ozarks Jazz fest. Sacramento to Columbus, Ohio, etc. My company shipped my car (they get group rates,) so I let them ship one and drove the other. My son graduated from the USMC boot camp in San Diego and we flew. Pack the car, go down to the airport. Unpack the car. Wait for the bus. Pack the bus. Gio to the terminal. Unpack the bus. Truck to the check-in. Walk to the gate. Take off the shoes, the belt, the cellphone, the change. Go through the scanner. Pick up the stuff, make it to the gate, wait, wait, wait. The plane is always late to be loaded. Just try to pack something in the overhead before Joe Blow and Sally Schmoe fills it with three bags, which is a no-no, but no one cares. Shuffle over some fat person, wh

o has already put the seat divider up so they can spread their fat over your seat, then get kicked by the kid in the back. Late taking off, only a little turbulence which makes them not serve anything, and late landing, late to the gate, late for the baggage, toe them bags then late to the shuttle to the rental car, which is, of course, several miles away from the San Diego airport. Tote those bags, Wait in the line. Get some non-nondescript car. Tote those bags. Note all the dings on the car, which is hard because it is now night. Try to exit. Wait in line. Get on the exit from the airport and just try to get out. Get out on the freeway and try to find the motel. Find the motel. Tote the bags.
>
> On the other hand, when we went down for his advanced graduation, we packed the bags in the car, and drove down Interstate 5 directly to the hotel. It took less time and we felt a whole lot better.


Ya' gotta love guys like you!

The OP asks a straightforward question about long-term vehicle storage
and you reply with a self-centered, rambling, off-topic diatribe about
what you did on your summer vacation. Sheesh!

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Old 08 Nov 2011, 11:08 am
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Default Re: Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

vivekian <vivekaseeja@gmail.com> wrote in news:bb8d4192-81e2-4201-8ec2-
7de4870d571d@q35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

> I need to travel to the east coast and work from there for a duration
> of 5 months. I can leave my car in covered parking here and ask a
> friend to start the car for a few minutes every week.
>
> What possible issues could I face with the car maintenance when I
> return? Or what issues can arise since the car will be non-operable
> for a long period?
>
> The car is a Honda Civic 2008 in good condition.
>
> Also, I have the option of shipping the car to east coast - but it
> would cost me anywhere from 850 - 1000 dollars.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Vivekian




I would not recommend starting the car for a few minutes every week. Just
park it and leave it. But if you MUST have your friend start the car
regularly, let it idle for at least a half-hour before shutting it off
again.

If you decide to leave the car un-used for 5 months:
1) fill the gas tank completely full,
2) make sure the tires are properly inflated
3) leave the parking brake OFF,
4) disconnect the battery negative cable.

Other than that, the car will be just fine when you get back.

The reason you need to disconnect the battery is that modern cars draw a
lot of power even when un-used, and the battery will eventually go flat if
it's not disconnected.

The parking brake needs to be left off because sometimes the shoes will
stick to the drums if left on for a long time.

Filling the gas tank all the way reduces the amount of oxygen available to
the fuel. The more oxygen, the faster the spoilage. If you have access to a
gas station that sells non-ethanol gas, that would be best.


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Old 08 Nov 2011, 11:16 am
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Default Re: Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

On 11/8/11 12:08 PM, Tegger wrote:
> vivekian<vivekaseeja@gmail.com> wrote in news:bb8d4192-81e2-4201-8ec2-
> 7de4870d571d@q35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I need to travel to the east coast and work from there for a duration
>> of 5 months. I can leave my car in covered parking here and ask a
>> friend to start the car for a few minutes every week.
>>
>> What possible issues could I face with the car maintenance when I
>> return? Or what issues can arise since the car will be non-operable
>> for a long period?
>>
>> The car is a Honda Civic 2008 in good condition.
>>
>> Also, I have the option of shipping the car to east coast - but it
>> would cost me anywhere from 850 - 1000 dollars.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Vivekian

>
>
>
> I would not recommend starting the car for a few minutes every week. Just
> park it and leave it. But if you MUST have your friend start the car
> regularly, let it idle for at least a half-hour before shutting it off
> again.
>
> If you decide to leave the car un-used for 5 months:
> 1) fill the gas tank completely full,
> 2) make sure the tires are properly inflated
> 3) leave the parking brake OFF,
> 4) disconnect the battery negative cable.
>
> Other than that, the car will be just fine when you get back.
>
> The reason you need to disconnect the battery is that modern cars draw a
> lot of power even when un-used, and the battery will eventually go flat if
> it's not disconnected.
>
> The parking brake needs to be left off because sometimes the shoes will
> stick to the drums if left on for a long time.
>
> Filling the gas tank all the way reduces the amount of oxygen available to
> the fuel. The more oxygen, the faster the spoilage. If you have access to a
> gas station that sells non-ethanol gas, that would be best.
>
>


What about adding stabilizer to the gas?

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Old 08 Nov 2011, 12:05 pm
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Default Re: Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

On 11/08/2011 09:08 AM, Tegger wrote:
<snip for clarity>
> Filling the gas tank all the way reduces the amount of oxygen available to
> the fuel. The more oxygen, the faster the spoilage. If you have access to a
> gas station that sells non-ethanol gas, that would be best.


oxygen doesn't "spoil" fuel. things like water [ethanol containing
fuels], evaporation and even fungus can spoil fuel.

the first two are largely academic for this time frame in the typical
modern sealed tank. fungus can be a serious problem though and is
something the airline industry has fits over. check out cladosporium
resinae.

best leave the tank empty and fill with fresh fuel when returning. the
fresh fuel dilutes any gums, residues, the ethanol re-absorbs any
moisture [rust is not an issue in modern hdpe tanks], and when pumped
[injection fuel pumps circulate], will ensure the engine has fresh
[summer] fuel from which to start.


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Old 08 Nov 2011, 12:06 pm
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Default Re: Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

On 11/08/2011 09:16 AM, Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
> On 11/8/11 12:08 PM, Tegger wrote:
>> vivekian<vivekaseeja@gmail.com> wrote in news:bb8d4192-81e2-4201-8ec2-
>> 7de4870d571d@q35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> I need to travel to the east coast and work from there for a duration
>>> of 5 months. I can leave my car in covered parking here and ask a
>>> friend to start the car for a few minutes every week.
>>>
>>> What possible issues could I face with the car maintenance when I
>>> return? Or what issues can arise since the car will be non-operable
>>> for a long period?
>>>
>>> The car is a Honda Civic 2008 in good condition.
>>>
>>> Also, I have the option of shipping the car to east coast - but it
>>> would cost me anywhere from 850 - 1000 dollars.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Vivekian

>>
>>
>>
>> I would not recommend starting the car for a few minutes every week. Just
>> park it and leave it. But if you MUST have your friend start the car
>> regularly, let it idle for at least a half-hour before shutting it off
>> again.
>>
>> If you decide to leave the car un-used for 5 months:
>> 1) fill the gas tank completely full,
>> 2) make sure the tires are properly inflated
>> 3) leave the parking brake OFF,
>> 4) disconnect the battery negative cable.
>>
>> Other than that, the car will be just fine when you get back.
>>
>> The reason you need to disconnect the battery is that modern cars draw a
>> lot of power even when un-used, and the battery will eventually go
>> flat if
>> it's not disconnected.
>>
>> The parking brake needs to be left off because sometimes the shoes will
>> stick to the drums if left on for a long time.
>>
>> Filling the gas tank all the way reduces the amount of oxygen
>> available to
>> the fuel. The more oxygen, the faster the spoilage. If you have access
>> to a
>> gas station that sells non-ethanol gas, that would be best.
>>
>>

>
> What about adding stabilizer to the gas?
>


sure, that helps too.


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Old 08 Nov 2011, 01:47 pm
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Default Re: Is it okay to leave a Honda Civic 2008 non operable for 5 months?

"jim beam" wrote

> On 11/08/2011 09:16 AM, Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:


>> What about adding stabilizer to the gas?


> sure, that helps too.


At least with regard to gasoline-powered machines such as lawn tractors and
snowblowers, there seems to be two schools of thought for seasonal storage.
One is to run the gas tank completely dry (as cited in this thread), and the
other is adding stabilizer to the gasoline (actually the process is putting
stabilizer into an empty gas can and then adding the gasoline for good
mixing). I've chosen the latter and all's been well.

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