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Old 05 Nov 2011, 02:18 pm
QuestionQuigley
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Default Insight Air Compressor

The A.C. compressor on my daughter's 2011 Insight failed and the dealer told
her this was due to a "road hazard" and that it would not be covered under
warranty. I have not looked at it and I do not know where the compressor is
located to see if a road hazard failure is reasonable.

Anyone else have an unexplained A.C. problem?

Thanks,
Dennis

doregan at verizon dot net

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Old 05 Nov 2011, 02:24 pm
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"QuestionQuigley" <nomailtome@eircom.net> wrote in
news:j94253$jv2$1@dont-email.me:

> The A.C. compressor on my daughter's 2011 Insight failed and the
> dealer told her this was due to a "road hazard" and that it would not
> be covered under warranty. I have not looked at it and I do not know
> where the compressor is located to see if a road hazard failure is
> reasonable.
>
> Anyone else have an unexplained A.C. problem?
>



I'm sure the dealer said "condenser", not "compressor".

The condenser is the radiator-like thing in front of the usual radiator
under the hood at the front of the car. It can be struck by rocks and other
road debris with sufficient force to knock a hole in it, at which point all
your refrigerant goes poof into the air.

Unfortunately, it's like tires and windshields: When they fail due to
something you struck in the road, the cost to fix it is yours.

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Old 05 Nov 2011, 05:16 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: Insight Air Compressor

In article <j94253$jv2$1@dont-email.me>,
"QuestionQuigley" <nomailtome@eircom.net> wrote:

> The A.C. compressor on my daughter's 2011 Insight failed and the dealer told
> her this was due to a "road hazard" and that it would not be covered under
> warranty. I have not looked at it and I do not know where the compressor is
> located to see if a road hazard failure is reasonable.


The AC compressor itself likely did not get hit by a road hazard, but
it's entirely likely the condensor did--and that can cause damage
throughout the system.
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Old 05 Nov 2011, 05:34 pm
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Default Re: Insight Air Compressor

I believe you are correct - it is the condenser. Will non-Honda shops
typically be able to replace that? I'm guessing they end up buying parts
from Honda anyway.

Thanks,
Dennis


"Tegger" wrote in message news:Xns9F949CB5DCD1Ctegger@208.90.168.18...

"QuestionQuigley" <nomailtome@eircom.net> wrote in
news:j94253$jv2$1@dont-email.me:

> The A.C. compressor on my daughter's 2011 Insight failed and the
> dealer told her this was due to a "road hazard" and that it would not
> be covered under warranty. I have not looked at it and I do not know
> where the compressor is located to see if a road hazard failure is
> reasonable.
>
> Anyone else have an unexplained A.C. problem?
>



I'm sure the dealer said "condenser", not "compressor".

The condenser is the radiator-like thing in front of the usual radiator
under the hood at the front of the car. It can be struck by rocks and other
road debris with sufficient force to knock a hole in it, at which point all
your refrigerant goes poof into the air.

Unfortunately, it's like tires and windshields: When they fail due to
something you struck in the road, the cost to fix it is yours.

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Old 05 Nov 2011, 06:23 pm
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"QuestionQuigley" <nomailtome@eircom.net> wrote in
news:j94dl0$u7r$1@dont-email.me:

> I believe you are correct - it is the condenser. Will non-Honda shops
> typically be able to replace that?



Absolutely. But I'd recommend you use a dealer in spite of the added labor
cost.

This car is brand-new, and still very much under warranty. Suppose an
independent screws something up? Would Honda honor any warranty claims
thereafter that involved areas of the car that were disturbed during the
aftermarket repair? Do you want to take that chance? You could be into big
money there.



> I'm guessing they end up buying parts from Honda anyway.



For a 2011, likely, but not certain. If the Insight condenser is the same
as some other models, aftermarket parts may be readily available...and may
be a fraction of the quality of genuine-Honda.

Plus, this is /not/ like replacing a light bulb: You need to do a lot of
work and mess with a lot of parts when replacing the condenser. That means
a high probability of screwups, which is why you really should bite the
bullet and do these repairs with your warranty in mind.

Honda is unlikely to deny warranty repairs on screwups made by their
licensed dealers, and much more likely to deny claims for screwups made by
aftermarket garages.


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Old 05 Nov 2011, 06:43 pm
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Default Re: Insight Air Compressor

On 11/5/2011 6:34 PM, QuestionQuigley wrote:
> I believe you are correct - it is the condenser. Will non-Honda shops
> typically be able to replace that? I'm guessing they end up buying parts
> from Honda anyway.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
>
> "Tegger" wrote in message news:Xns9F949CB5DCD1Ctegger@208.90.168.18...
>
> "QuestionQuigley" <nomailtome@eircom.net> wrote in
> news:j94253$jv2$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> The A.C. compressor on my daughter's 2011 Insight failed and the
>> dealer told her this was due to a "road hazard" and that it would not
>> be covered under warranty. I have not looked at it and I do not know
>> where the compressor is located to see if a road hazard failure is
>> reasonable.
>>
>> Anyone else have an unexplained A.C. problem?
>>

>
>
> I'm sure the dealer said "condenser", not "compressor".
>
> The condenser is the radiator-like thing in front of the usual radiator
> under the hood at the front of the car. It can be struck by rocks and other
> road debris with sufficient force to knock a hole in it, at which point all
> your refrigerant goes poof into the air.
>
> Unfortunately, it's like tires and windshields: When they fail due to
> something you struck in the road, the cost to fix it is yours.
>



You might want to discuss this with your insurance company.
Since it is a new car, I'm guessing it has collision/comprehensive
coverage. There is a good chance the comprehensive portion
would cover this.
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 10:55 am
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Default Re: Insight Air Compressor

Thanks for the responses. Good idea on the insurance company. It is worth
the call.

"Al" wrote in message news:4eb5ca21$0$28366$607ed4bc@cv.net...

On 11/5/2011 6:34 PM, QuestionQuigley wrote:
> I believe you are correct - it is the condenser. Will non-Honda shops
> typically be able to replace that? I'm guessing they end up buying parts
> from Honda anyway.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
>
> "Tegger" wrote in message news:Xns9F949CB5DCD1Ctegger@208.90.168.18...
>
> "QuestionQuigley" <nomailtome@eircom.net> wrote in
> news:j94253$jv2$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> The A.C. compressor on my daughter's 2011 Insight failed and the
>> dealer told her this was due to a "road hazard" and that it would not
>> be covered under warranty. I have not looked at it and I do not know
>> where the compressor is located to see if a road hazard failure is
>> reasonable.
>>
>> Anyone else have an unexplained A.C. problem?
>>

>
>
> I'm sure the dealer said "condenser", not "compressor".
>
> The condenser is the radiator-like thing in front of the usual radiator
> under the hood at the front of the car. It can be struck by rocks and
> other
> road debris with sufficient force to knock a hole in it, at which point
> all
> your refrigerant goes poof into the air.
>
> Unfortunately, it's like tires and windshields: When they fail due to
> something you struck in the road, the cost to fix it is yours.
>



You might want to discuss this with your insurance company.
Since it is a new car, I'm guessing it has collision/comprehensive
coverage. There is a good chance the comprehensive portion
would cover this.

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