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Old 14 Oct 2011, 06:01 pm
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Default Low Battery Charge warning light

Low battery charge warning light.

Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem?
Seems to be an annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
Thanks
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Old 14 Oct 2011, 06:04 pm
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:01:45 -0700, QX <Q@X.net> wrote:

>Low battery charge warning light.
>
>Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem?
>Seems to be an annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
>Thanks

oops......
That would be referring to the Odyssey.
And have they cleared it up on the 2012 models.
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Old 14 Oct 2011, 07:34 pm
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QX <Q@X.net> wrote in news:7ufh97dhvkbegqr33e369fh48geg132unt@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:01:45 -0700, QX <Q@X.net> wrote:
>
>>Low battery charge warning light.
>>
>>Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem?
>>Seems to be an annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
>>Thanks

> oops......
> That would be referring to the Odyssey.
> And have they cleared it up on the 2012 models.




Another multi-poster... <sigh>

I posted the below in rec.autos.makers.honda, in reply to your identical
message there:

-----------------

I'll bet it's an annoyance. But it's not a defect, it's a
Congress/Obama "feature".

Remember that new 35mpg CAFE standard? Guess how many hoops
Honda's trying to jump through to meet that standard and still
offer you a 3.5L V6 engine?

Read Honda's carefully-worded press release, here:
<http://www.hondanews.com/releases/20...ey-powertrain?
query=odyssey>
Not that fuel economy is mentioned twice in the battery section.

Honda did something similar in the early-'90s, with a cruder form
of the "low battery" light. It was called the Electrical Load
Detector (ELD). It too was intended to increase gas mileage,
and it too caused myriad problems until Honda got the bugs
worked out.

You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
but you sure don't like the side-effects!




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Old 14 Oct 2011, 08:41 pm
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On 10/14/2011 5:34 PM, Tegger wrote:
> You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
> representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
> but you sure don't like the side-effects!


Side effects, such as stuffed toilets due to mandated smaller water tanks?


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Old 14 Oct 2011, 09:46 pm
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That's unintended effects as when (shown in studies) that people are now flushing more than once. There was a reason for plumbing engineers to calculate the amount of water in the tank. Some political fiat that one could use less water results in the unintended effect that more flushes are needed.Her ladyship might only need one for her royal pee, but his lordship requires more than one for his royal dump, hence there is no savings of water. On the other hand it gives more work for the Squire of the Roto-Rooter.
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Old 17 Oct 2011, 07:18 am
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:41:48 -0700, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 10/14/2011 5:34 PM, Tegger wrote:
>> You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
>> representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
>> but you sure don't like the side-effects!

>
>Side effects, such as stuffed toilets due to mandated smaller water tanks?
>


It's a fleet average no? So sell more Fits and Civics. They don't make
as much money on those I guess.

I really don't understand your point of view. We're running out of oil
so we either need to destroy natural areas to get a bit more or trade
with despots. Water is also a vital resource that is getting scarce in
many areas, and disposal of waste water is also a problem, unless we
want to dump it into the oceans and pollute those some more.

It seems to me that toilets that waste large amounts of water are
against our national interest. Yes, it did take a bit of time for
manufacturers to come up with good low-flow toilets, but I sure have
no problem with them and haven't for many years. Maybe your plumbing
needs a look.
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Old 17 Oct 2011, 06:17 pm
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QX <Q@X.net> wrote in news:7ufh97dhvkbegqr33e369fh48geg132unt@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:01:45 -0700, QX <Q@X.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Low battery charge warning light.
>>>
>>>Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem?
>>>Seems to be an annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
>>>Thanks

>> oops......
>> That would be referring to the Odyssey.
>> And have they cleared it up on the 2012 models.

>
>
>
>Another multi-poster... <sigh>
>
>I posted the below in rec.autos.makers.honda, in reply to your
>identical
>message there:
>
>-----------------
>
>I'll bet it's an annoyance. But it's not a defect, it's a
>Congress/Obama "feature".
>
>Remember that new 35mpg CAFE standard? Guess how many hoops
>Honda's trying to jump through to meet that standard and still
>offer you a 3.5L V6 engine?
>
>Read Honda's carefully-worded press release, here:
><http://www.hondanews.com/releases/20...ey-powertrain?
>query=odyssey>
>Not that fuel economy is mentioned twice in the battery section.
>
>Honda did something similar in the early-'90s, with a cruder form
>of the "low battery" light. It was called the Electrical Load
>Detector (ELD). It too was intended to increase gas mileage,
>and it too caused myriad problems until Honda got the bugs
>worked out.
>
>You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
>representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
>but you sure don't like the side-effects!
>
>
>
>


It is not the purpose of the federal gov't to take decisive action on
matters that are free market driven.
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Old 17 Oct 2011, 07:23 pm
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On 10/17/2011 04:17 PM, Stewart wrote:
> QX<Q@X.net> wrote in news:7ufh97dhvkbegqr33e369fh48geg132unt@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:01:45 -0700, QX<Q@X.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Low battery charge warning light.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem?
>>>> Seems to be an annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
>>>> Thanks
>>> oops......
>>> That would be referring to the Odyssey.
>>> And have they cleared it up on the 2012 models.

>>
>>
>>
>> Another multi-poster...<sigh>
>>
>> I posted the below in rec.autos.makers.honda, in reply to your
>> identical
>> message there:
>>
>> -----------------
>>
>> I'll bet it's an annoyance. But it's not a defect, it's a
>> Congress/Obama "feature".
>>
>> Remember that new 35mpg CAFE standard? Guess how many hoops
>> Honda's trying to jump through to meet that standard and still
>> offer you a 3.5L V6 engine?
>>
>> Read Honda's carefully-worded press release, here:
>> <http://www.hondanews.com/releases/20...ey-powertrain?
>> query=odyssey>
>> Not that fuel economy is mentioned twice in the battery section.
>>
>> Honda did something similar in the early-'90s, with a cruder form
>> of the "low battery" light. It was called the Electrical Load
>> Detector (ELD). It too was intended to increase gas mileage,
>> and it too caused myriad problems until Honda got the bugs
>> worked out.
>>
>> You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
>> representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
>> but you sure don't like the side-effects!
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> It is not the purpose of the federal gov't to take decisive action on
> matters that are free market driven.
> --


really? so why are they spending trillions* of taxpayer dollars bailing
out "free market" operations such as the auto industry? the [public and
private] banks? the insurance industry? the housing industry [fannie
and freddie]? i know i didn't vote for it. did you?


* that's trillions with "T", not a typo.


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Old 22 Oct 2011, 07:12 am
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"jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:j7igu3$2ta$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> On 10/17/2011 04:17 PM, Stewart wrote:
>> QX<Q@X.net> wrote in
>> news:7ufh97dhvkbegqr33e369fh48geg132unt@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:01:45 -0700, QX<Q@X.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Low battery charge warning light.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem?
>>>>> Seems to be an annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>> oops......
>>>> That would be referring to the Odyssey.
>>>> And have they cleared it up on the 2012 models.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another multi-poster...<sigh>
>>>
>>> I posted the below in rec.autos.makers.honda, in reply to your
>>> identical
>>> message there:
>>>
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>> I'll bet it's an annoyance. But it's not a defect, it's a
>>> Congress/Obama "feature".
>>>
>>> Remember that new 35mpg CAFE standard? Guess how many hoops
>>> Honda's trying to jump through to meet that standard and still
>>> offer you a 3.5L V6 engine?
>>>
>>> Read Honda's carefully-worded press release, here:
>>> <http://www.hondanews.com/releases/20...ey-powertrain?
>>> query=odyssey>
>>> Not that fuel economy is mentioned twice in the battery section.
>>>
>>> Honda did something similar in the early-'90s, with a cruder form
>>> of the "low battery" light. It was called the Electrical Load
>>> Detector (ELD). It too was intended to increase gas mileage,
>>> and it too caused myriad problems until Honda got the bugs
>>> worked out.
>>>
>>> You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
>>> representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
>>> but you sure don't like the side-effects!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> It is not the purpose of the federal gov't to take decisive action
>> on
>> matters that are free market driven.
>> --

>
> really? so why are they spending trillions* of taxpayer dollars
> bailing out "free market" operations such as the auto industry? the
> [public and private] banks? the insurance industry? the housing
> industry [fannie and freddie]? i know i didn't vote for it. did
> you?
>
>
> * that's trillions with "T", not a typo.


They are overstepping their boundries. It seems everyone wants the
gov't to do something about everything these days.....healthcare,
welfare, businesses, banks....

>
>
> --
> nomina rutrum rutrum



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Old 22 Oct 2011, 10:07 am
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On 10/22/2011 05:12 AM, Stewart wrote:
> "jim beam"<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:j7igu3$2ta$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 10/17/2011 04:17 PM, Stewart wrote:
>>> QX<Q@X.net> wrote in
>>> news:7ufh97dhvkbegqr33e369fh48geg132unt@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:01:45 -0700, QX<Q@X.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Low battery charge warning light.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know if Honda has cured this problem?
>>>>>> Seems to be an annoyance with the 2010 and 2011 models.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> oops......
>>>>> That would be referring to the Odyssey.
>>>>> And have they cleared it up on the 2012 models.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another multi-poster...<sigh>
>>>>
>>>> I posted the below in rec.autos.makers.honda, in reply to your
>>>> identical
>>>> message there:
>>>>
>>>> -----------------
>>>>
>>>> I'll bet it's an annoyance. But it's not a defect, it's a
>>>> Congress/Obama "feature".
>>>>
>>>> Remember that new 35mpg CAFE standard? Guess how many hoops
>>>> Honda's trying to jump through to meet that standard and still
>>>> offer you a 3.5L V6 engine?
>>>>
>>>> Read Honda's carefully-worded press release, here:
>>>> <http://www.hondanews.com/releases/20...ey-powertrain?
>>>> query=odyssey>
>>>> Not that fuel economy is mentioned twice in the battery section.
>>>>
>>>> Honda did something similar in the early-'90s, with a cruder form
>>>> of the "low battery" light. It was called the Electrical Load
>>>> Detector (ELD). It too was intended to increase gas mileage,
>>>> and it too caused myriad problems until Honda got the bugs
>>>> worked out.
>>>>
>>>> You guys may feel confident and reassured when your elected
>>>> representatives ditch the gridlock and take decisive action,
>>>> but you sure don't like the side-effects!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is not the purpose of the federal gov't to take decisive action
>>> on
>>> matters that are free market driven.
>>> --

>>
>> really? so why are they spending trillions* of taxpayer dollars
>> bailing out "free market" operations such as the auto industry? the
>> [public and private] banks? the insurance industry? the housing
>> industry [fannie and freddie]? i know i didn't vote for it. did
>> you?
>>
>>
>> * that's trillions with "T", not a typo.

>
> They are overstepping their boundries. It seems everyone wants the
> gov't to do something about everything these days.....healthcare,
> welfare, businesses, banks....


yeah, but you said "free market" we don't have a free market. we have
"public risk, private profit" /illusion/ of a free market where the
institutions that are supposed to be "by the people for the people" are
now simply tax collection mechanisms to feed the corporations that these
institutions now actually serve. to put it another way, your issue with
"overstepping boundaries" is misdirected - it's not government that's
the problem, it's who that government actually serves that is the problem.


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