Honda Car Forum

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

>
>
> Uh, generally, break-in periods suggest not driving at constant speeds.
> So, in this case, the advice may well have been appropriate.
>
> JT

Well, I just pulled out the owner's manual for my '06 Acura TSX. The
only restrictions for the first 600 miles are to avoid full throttle
acceleration, avoid agressive acceleration, avoid panic stop braking and
to leave the factory motor oil in the motor until the first oil change
interval.

The old procedures for running in rings, cams and the like do not seem
to apply to modern Honda products. I'm pretty sure Honda knows what
they are doing in this regard.

John

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:53:45 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote:


>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

>>
>>
>> Uh, generally, break-in periods suggest not driving at constant speeds.
>> So, in this case, the advice may well have been appropriate.
>>
>> JT

>Well, I just pulled out the owner's manual for my '06 Acura TSX. The
>only restrictions for the first 600 miles are to avoid full throttle
>acceleration, avoid agressive acceleration, avoid panic stop braking and
>to leave the factory motor oil in the motor until the first oil change
>interval.

>The old procedures for running in rings, cams and the like do not seem
>to apply to modern Honda products. I'm pretty sure Honda knows what
>they are doing in this regard.

Sure. Can't have all their engines lasting 300K miles. It's much
better for honda if their engines only last through the period of their
extended warranties.

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:34:39 -0500, no name <jason*.nyhq@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>The manufacturer's recommended break-in period for a Honda Accord, six
>cylinder, with automatic is 600 miles. I was advised by someone at the
>dealership that cruise control should not be used until the vehicle
>has been driven for 1500 miles. The owner's manual makes no mention of
>a separate break-in for the cruise control. Has anyone else ever
>heard this?

Yeah, I heard it forty years ago for GM iron engines, except they
didnt even HAVE cruise control back then, but you were supposed to
vary your speed a lot.

Does not seem to be an issue for current Honda alumino-silicate engine
technology. No 500 mile break-in oil, either. Don't even have to
crank the engine manually to start them anymore, either.

Still have to parallel-park them yourself, but how much longer can
that go on?!

J.

AZ Nomad wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:53:45 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Uh, generally, break-in periods suggest not driving at constant speeds.
>>> So, in this case, the advice may well have been appropriate.
>>>
>>> JT
>
>> Well, I just pulled out the owner's manual for my '06 Acura TSX. The
>> only restrictions for the first 600 miles are to avoid full throttle
>> acceleration, avoid agressive acceleration, avoid panic stop braking and
>> to leave the factory motor oil in the motor until the first oil change
>> interval.
>
>> The old procedures for running in rings, cams and the like do not seem
>> to apply to modern Honda products. I'm pretty sure Honda knows what
>> they are doing in this regard.
>
> Sure. Can't have all their engines lasting 300K miles. It's much
> better for honda if their engines only last through the period of their
> extended warranties.

dude, with respect, time to move on. the improvements in precision,
materials and lubricants since the 50's and the detroit hunk-o-junk's
hay day render the old run-in procedure obsolete.

besides, have you ever worked on diesels? if so, you'll know that the
engine is controlled by the injection governor, not the pedal under the
drivers foot - it gives full throttle/injection with absolutely zero
regard to news groups. with that new knowledge and fear of blatant
abuse, can we suddenly expect the nation's diesel engine lifespans to
dramatically reduce?

In article <7j4ll2dus1omee34d2bnc6htfvhir5lkeq@4ax.com>,
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:

> Still have to parallel-park them yourself, but how much longer can
> that go on?!

About 10 years. That's when the current Lexus gee-whiz parallel parking
technology will move its way down to the base Civic.

AZ Nomad wrote:

>
> Sure. Can't have all their engines lasting 300K miles. It's much
> better for honda if their engines only last through the period of their
> extended warranties.

You must be joking, right? A good deal of Honda's business success
today is built upon their reputation for robust long lasting vehicles.

John

"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:WnM6h.2138$5F2.1151@trnddc04...
> AZ Nomad wrote:
>
>>
>> Sure. Can't have all their engines lasting 300K miles. It's much
>> better for honda if their engines only last through the period of their
>> extended warranties.
>
> You must be joking, right? A good deal of Honda's business success today
> is built upon their reputation for robust long lasting vehicles.
>
> John

Exactly so. Looking in today's auto classifieds I see a 2001 Ford Taurus
advertised for $2950 and a 2001 Honda Civic DX for $9995. Fords have a
reputation for the sort of design you mention, AZ. Hondas don't... and it
shows.

Mike

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:30:13 -0700, Michael Pardee <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:


>"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:WnM6h.2138$5F2.1151@trnddc04...
>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sure. Can't have all their engines lasting 300K miles. It's much
>>> better for honda if their engines only last through the period of their
>>> extended warranties.
>>
>> You must be joking, right? A good deal of Honda's business success today
>> is built upon their reputation for robust long lasting vehicles.
>>
>> John

>Exactly so. Looking in today's auto classifieds I see a 2001 Ford Taurus
>advertised for $2950 and a 2001 Honda Civic DX for $9995. Fords have a
>reputation for the sort of design you mention, AZ. Hondas don't... and it
>shows.

Of course. Who needs real quality when you have a reputation to sit on?
Have you repaired a sony lately? Absolute crap yet people still buy them
based on a reputation thirty years out of date.

AZ Nomad wrote:

> Of course. Who needs real quality when you have a reputation to sit on?
> Have you repaired a sony lately? Absolute crap yet people still buy them
> based on a reputation thirty years out of date.

Sony must be hit and miss because I still buy their products (as I have for
20 years) and the only problem I can recall was a bum headphone jack in a
Walkman I bought in the late 80s. In the last 3 years, I have bought a Sony
DVD player, a Sony digital camera, and a Sony stereo for my since traded-in
Accord. No problems with any of these.

In article <slrnelnjav.77n.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:

> Who needs real quality when you have a reputation to sit on?

That reputation is as solid as a puff of smoke. It can, and will, go
away in a moment unless it's being constantly fortified.