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I just got an e-mail quote from one local dealer of $21,170 which is
basically invoice in New York State (Edmunds invoice does not include the
additional amount of $130-$140 for NYS partial-zero emissions).

I think this is a great price. What do you think?

I see the SE V6 has Brake Assist...what is that?

Anyone have experience driving both the 4cyl and 6cyl Accord? I've seen
some comments that the weight of the V6 affects the handling
characteristics.

Any comments appreciated!

tia, Rich

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Rich Weed said
> I just got an e-mail quote from one local dealer of $21,170 which is
> basically invoice in New York State (Edmunds invoice does not include the
> additional amount of $130-$140 for NYS partial-zero emissions).
>
> I think this is a great price. What do you think?
>
> I see the SE V6 has Brake Assist...what is that?
>
> Anyone have experience driving both the 4cyl and 6cyl Accord? I've seen
> some comments that the weight of the V6 affects the handling
> characteristics.

I can't recall anyone regretting the fact that they opted for the V6.



Casey

> I can't recall anyone regretting the fact that they opted for the V6.

Except for automatic transmission problems!

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> Rich Weed said
> > I just got an e-mail quote from one local dealer of $21,170 which is
> > basically invoice in New York State (Edmunds invoice does not include
the
> > additional amount of $130-$140 for NYS partial-zero emissions).
> >
> > I think this is a great price. What do you think?
> >
> > I see the SE V6 has Brake Assist...what is that?
> >
> > Anyone have experience driving both the 4cyl and 6cyl Accord? I've
seen
> > some comments that the weight of the V6 affects the handling
> > characteristics.
>
> I can't recall anyone regretting the fact that they opted for the V6.
>
>
>
> Casey
>

"TomC" <ooo@ooo.com> wrote in news:01c6f83d$796cba20$6501a8c0@tomc.suscom:

>> I can't recall anyone regretting the fact that they opted for the V6.
>
> Except for automatic transmission problems!
>

Is that still an issue?

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> >> I can't recall anyone regretting the fact that they opted for the V6.
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> > Except for automatic transmission problems!
> >
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> Is that still an issue?
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I don't know if they ever did figure out what was wrong, and I don't know
if they're still using the same transmission. My 2000 still doesn't drive
well (stuttering at constant highway speed) even though the transmission
was replaced. FWIW.
TomC

In article <Xns9866F4114DF85weedrichardNOhotmSPA@24.24.2.165> ,
Rich Weed <weed_richard@NOhotmSPAMail.com> wrote:

> I just got an e-mail quote from one local dealer of $21,170 which is
> basically invoice in New York State (Edmunds invoice does not include the
> additional amount of $130-$140 for NYS partial-zero emissions).

The V-6 is available with ultra low emissions. Only the four is
available with partial zero emissions. I believe Honda charges about
what you indicate for PZEV on the four, but doesn't charge anything for
ULEV on the V-6.

> I think this is a great price. What do you think?

Carsdirect.com currently sells an SE V-6 in Southern California for
$21,348, and that includes their profit as well as a dealer profit. So
it is indeed a great price, but you can probably talk other dealers into
similarly great prices. There are often manufacturer incentives that
allow a dealer to pay significantly less than invoice for their cars.

Honda's problem for 2007 is that the Accord is five years old, but the
Camry is brand new. The price on 2007 Accords has already dropped quite
a bit, but if you can wait a little longer, it'll probably drop even
more as the model year goes on and details of the 2008 redesign start to
leak out.

> I see the SE V6 has Brake Assist...what is that?

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_assist>

> Anyone have experience driving both the 4cyl and 6cyl Accord? I've seen
> some comments that the weight of the V6 affects the handling
> characteristics.

The SE V6 is the most nose heavy Accord, and will understeer more than a
four cylinder model, although that doesn't make it a bad handling car.
If you're interested in improving the handling, better tires and a
larger rear stabilizer bar will do wonders.

In article <Xns98676C1B9CC95weedrichardNOhotmSPA@24.24.2.167> ,
Rich Weed <weed_richard@NOhotmSPAMail.com> wrote:

> Is that still an issue?

No, the last transmission problem was fixed about mid-year 2004.

For reference:
<http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Accord/2003/>
<http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Accord/2004/>
<http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Accord/2005/>

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> > >> I can't recall anyone regretting the fact that they opted for the V6.
> > >
> > > Except for automatic transmission problems!
> > >
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> > Is that still an issue?
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> I don't know if they ever did figure out what was wrong, and I don't know
> if they're still using the same transmission. My 2000 still doesn't drive
> well (stuttering at constant highway speed) even though the transmission
> was replaced. FWIW.
> TomC

Have a 2000 EX V6. There are known transmission problem associated with
this year (and others). No signs of anything abnormal yet but have only
51,000 miles--hope it's not down the road waiting for me Any reason why
you're blaming the stuttering on the transmission? Could be something
else--ignition, fuel system related for example.
MLD

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> > > >> I can't recall anyone regretting the fact that they opted for the
V6.
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> > > > Except for automatic transmission problems!
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> > > Is that still an issue?
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> > I don't know if they ever did figure out what was wrong, and I don't
know
> > if they're still using the same transmission. My 2000 still doesn't
drive
> > well (stuttering at constant highway speed) even though the
transmission
> > was replaced. FWIW.
> > TomC
>
> Have a 2000 EX V6. There are known transmission problem associated with
> this year (and others). No signs of anything abnormal yet but have only
> 51,000 miles--hope it's not down the road waiting for me Any reason why
> you're blaming the stuttering on the transmission? Could be something
> else--ignition, fuel system related for example.
> MLD
>
>
>
I was told by the dealer at the time that the problems (stuttering was one
of several) were due to the transmission......Could be that they were
looking for a reason to do a big dollar repair job and sock it to Honda
under a warranty item. All I know is the stuttering problem still exists
and the transmission at times does odd things; e.g. the car will roll
backwards while in drive when stopped on a hill; every now and then I get a
clunk when engaging drive/reverse from park; plus the stuttering. The
transmission was replaced at 35,000mi. I now have 77,000mi. on it. A new
problem; it's starting to eat tires on the inside of the left front even
after alignment and rotation????
TomC

About the stuttering at constant highway speed, does it go away with
more throttle pressure? This sounds to me to be an EGR problem.
V6 Accords/Ody's often have plugged EGR passages and this is one of
the main indicators.

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>> >> I can't recall anyone regretting the fact that they opted for the V6.
>> >
>> > Except for automatic transmission problems!
>> >
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>> Is that still an issue?
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>I don't know if they ever did figure out what was wrong, and I don't know
>if they're still using the same transmission. My 2000 still doesn't drive
>well (stuttering at constant highway speed) even though the transmission
>was replaced. FWIW.
>TomC