Honda Car Forum

"ExtremeValue" <raheem@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> What is overfilling, by the way. I fill the tank until the nozle stops
> automatically.
>

That is proper filling; overfilling happens when more gas is squeezed in by
waiting a minute and trying to get some more to trickle in or (even worse)
by pulling the nozzle partway out of the neck and "topping up" the tank that
way. It can get liquid gasoline in the charcoal canister through the vapor
line to the tank, which saturates the charcoal.

Mike

High Tech Misfit wrote:

> EPA rated the '93 Accord automatic at 28mpg on the highway. My car
> consistently averaged 32-34mpg on the highway under normal conditions. In
> fact, it even got 36mpg on one occasion a few years ago. And BTW, those are
> U.S. gallons in my mileage figures, not Imperial gallons.

Sorry, Steve, you should have bought a ~13 year old Accord!
(92 5-spd wagon, averaging over 33 overall since purchase in Feb. 36+
tootling along two lane roads at 50~60)

You might try a new O2 sensor in your Civic. I suppose it's possible
that your unit is not working quite right. Check the O2 wiring
connectors and harness - maybe a connection itn't quite snug. Have you
looked at the plugs? They might indicate an out-of-spec mixture or
other problem. Apart from that, I duunow.... Cam timing belt off a
notch? Ignition timing wrong? Nerfed exhaust gasket blocking airflow?
Dead squirrel in airbox?

Looking at your spreadsheet, you seem to do OK on the big road trips.
What sort of highway speeds to you cuise at? If you have the time, try
cutting your speed by 10KPH on your next big trip and see what happens.

As for city, just try to anticipate traffic and don't be afraid to ease
off early when you see slow traffic ahead. Every time you use the
brakes, you are burning gas. When accelerating, the consensus seems to
be that moderate acceleration at low RPM is probably ideal. The engine
will burn fuel more efficiently near 75% throttle than when tiptoeing
about at 30%. (An automatic transmission may complicate things by
downshifting unneccessarily.)

-Greg

> You might try a new O2 sensor in your Civic. I suppose it's possible
> that your unit is not working quite right. Check the O2 wiring
> connectors and harness - maybe a connection itn't quite snug. Have you
> looked at the plugs? They might indicate an out-of-spec mixture or
> other problem. Apart from that, I duunow.... Cam timing belt off a
> notch? Ignition timing wrong? Nerfed exhaust gasket blocking airflow?
> Dead squirrel in airbox?

I hope none of those things are wrong with my 5 month old Civic.

Steve

Steve Mackie wrote:
>
> > You might try a new O2 sensor in your Civic. I suppose it's possible
> > that your unit is not working quite right. Check the O2 wiring
> > connectors and harness - maybe a connection itn't quite snug. Have you
> > looked at the plugs? They might indicate an out-of-spec mixture or
> > other problem. Apart from that, I duunow.... Cam timing belt off a
> > notch? Ignition timing wrong? Nerfed exhaust gasket blocking airflow?
> > Dead squirrel in airbox?
>
> I hope none of those things are wrong with my 5 month old Civic.
>
> Steve



That's probably the answer. Civics have gained weight since 1992...

JT

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:40:09 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

> Steve Mackie wrote:
>>
>>> You might try a new O2 sensor in your Civic. I suppose it's possible
>>> that your unit is not working quite right. Check the O2 wiring
>>> connectors and harness - maybe a connection itn't quite snug. Have you
>>> looked at the plugs? They might indicate an out-of-spec mixture or
>>> other problem. Apart from that, I duunow.... Cam timing belt off a
>>> notch? Ignition timing wrong? Nerfed exhaust gasket blocking airflow?
>>> Dead squirrel in airbox?
>>
>> I hope none of those things are wrong with my 5 month old Civic.
>>
>> Steve
>
>
>
> That's probably the answer. Civics have gained weight since 1992...

And they have bigger engines, without options.

Used to be that the DX would have a tiny engine, and each level up got you
into more options and a bigger motor. Now they all have the 1.6 liter,
except for the Si.

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Steve Mackie wrote:

>>You might try a new O2 sensor in your Civic. I suppose it's possible
>>that your unit is not working quite right. Check the O2 wiring
>>connectors and harness - maybe a connection itn't quite snug. Have you
>>looked at the plugs? They might indicate an out-of-spec mixture or
>>other problem. Apart from that, I duunow.... Cam timing belt off a
>>notch? Ignition timing wrong? Nerfed exhaust gasket blocking airflow?
>> Dead squirrel in airbox?
>
>
> I hope none of those things are wrong with my 5 month old Civic.
>
> Steve

You're not getting the mileage others are. Either you drive like a
maniac, or there IS somthing wrong/different about your car. 5 months
or 5 years, it matters not.

-Greg

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:18:01 -0700, Greg Campbell wrote:

> Steve Mackie wrote:
>
>>>You might try a new O2 sensor in your Civic. I suppose it's possible
>>>that your unit is not working quite right. Check the O2 wiring
>>>connectors and harness - maybe a connection itn't quite snug. Have you
>>>looked at the plugs? They might indicate an out-of-spec mixture or
>>>other problem. Apart from that, I duunow.... Cam timing belt off a
>>>notch? Ignition timing wrong? Nerfed exhaust gasket blocking airflow?
>>> Dead squirrel in airbox?
>>
>>
>> I hope none of those things are wrong with my 5 month old Civic.
>>
>> Steve
>
> You're not getting the mileage others are. Either you drive like a
> maniac, or there IS somthing wrong/different about your car. 5 months
> or 5 years, it matters not.
>
> -Greg

He's getting similar mileage to what I am getting on the Si, which isn't
good, but that could be due to a large amount of city driving or driving
like a maniac.

The mileage isn't THAT far off that I would expect it to be caused by
malfunction, but it is hard to tell...

Any trips that were predominately highway? At around 50-60 MPH?

The closest you'll get to EPA is usually in that range...

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 10/9/2006 2:25:07 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

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Dorothy (Judy Garland): How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
Scarecrow: I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot
of talking... don't they?
Dorothy: Yes, I guess you're right.
~ "Wizard of Oz "

> And they have bigger engines, without options.
>
> Used to be that the DX would have a tiny engine, and each level up got you
> into more options and a bigger motor. Now they all have the 1.6 liter,
> except for the Si.

1.8.

> You're not getting the mileage others are. Either you drive like a
> maniac, or there IS somthing wrong/different about your car. 5 months
> or 5 years, it matters not.

I'll adjust my driving habits for a week, see what happens.

Steve

Joe LaVigne wrote:

> Used to be that the DX would have a tiny engine, and each level up got you
> into more options and a bigger motor. Now they all have the 1.6 liter,
> except for the Si.

Actually, the current non-Si Civic engine is 1.8 liters; the Si engine is
2.0 liters.

The non-Si hatch engines in the 7th-gen (2001-05) Civic were 1.7 liters.