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Old 06 Oct 2006, 03:28 pm
highkm
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Default 2003 Accord Whistles at 123KM/h

For those who have a 2003 Accord (4CYL) or newer with a lot of
kliometers.

Does anyone hear some kind of whistling coming from the front of the
car when you get to 123KM/h. I get some kind of whistling that starts
at 123KM/h. It disappears at 130KM/h. It comes back at 150KM/h. Service
thinks it's a wheel bearing but I had it from about 90,000KM. I now
have just over 250,000KM. It's just a bit louder.

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Old 07 Oct 2006, 08:24 am
Dave Kelsen
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Default Re: 2003 Accord Whistles at 123KM/h

On 10/6/2006 3:28 PM highkm spake these words of knowledge:

> For those who have a 2003 Accord (4CYL) or newer with a lot of
> kliometers.
>
> Does anyone hear some kind of whistling coming from the front of the
> car when you get to 123KM/h. I get some kind of whistling that starts
> at 123KM/h. It disappears at 130KM/h. It comes back at 150KM/h. Service
> thinks it's a wheel bearing but I had it from about 90,000KM. I now
> have just over 250,000KM. It's just a bit louder.


Is this something you can hear while the windows are up? I have not
noticed any such thing, although I have only 144K kilometers on my 2003
Accord.

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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power in the hands of government prevent insurrections." --Thomas
Jefferson to James Madison, 1787
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Old 08 Oct 2006, 08:54 pm
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Default Re: 2003 Accord Whistles at 123KM/h

This occurs with windows up or down. The nosie can be modulated by the
gas pedal at those speeds i.e. if while the noise is heard I slightly
increase the gas the noise is louder, and if I let go off the gas pedal
the noise disappears. It may be front wheel bearings or transmission.
Everyone that knows something abouth car mechanics states that it's
wheel bearings. I have had many bearings go on my previous cars, but I
have never had whisling wheel bearings.

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> On 10/6/2006 3:28 PM highkm spake these words of knowledge:
>
> > For those who have a 2003 Accord (4CYL) or newer with a lot of
> > kliometers.
> >
> > Does anyone hear some kind of whistling coming from the front of the
> > car when you get to 123KM/h. I get some kind of whistling that starts
> > at 123KM/h. It disappears at 130KM/h. It comes back at 150KM/h. Service
> > thinks it's a wheel bearing but I had it from about 90,000KM. I now
> > have just over 250,000KM. It's just a bit louder.

>
> Is this something you can hear while the windows are up? I have not
> noticed any such thing, although I have only 144K kilometers on my 2003
> Accord.
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> "The late rebellion in Massachusetts has given more alarm than I think
> it should have done. Calculate that one rebellion in thirteen states in
> the course of eleven years, is but one for each state in a century and a
> half. No country should be so long without one. Nor will any degree of
> power in the hands of government prevent insurrections." --Thomas
> Jefferson to James Madison, 1787


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Old 09 Oct 2006, 06:17 pm
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Default Re: 2003 Accord Whistles at 123KM/h

"highkm" <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in message
news:1160358844.062035.144350@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> This occurs with windows up or down. The nosie can be modulated by the
> gas pedal at those speeds i.e. if while the noise is heard I slightly
> increase the gas the noise is louder, and if I let go off the gas pedal
> the noise disappears. It may be front wheel bearings or transmission.
> Everyone that knows something abouth car mechanics states that it's
> wheel bearings. I have had many bearings go on my previous cars, but I
> have never had whisling wheel bearings.
>


The only one I had whistle was eating its way through the hub! Actually, it
was more of a screech....

I am really intrigued about the change in sound with the accelerator pedal;
wheel bearings normally don't care what you are doing with the accelerator.
How would the wheel bearings know? I'm thinking a vacuum leak from above the
throttle plate, but it could also be anything in the power train; engine,
transmission, axles. Narrowing it down from there may take some ingenuity
and persistence.

A thought occurs to me, though - it would be quick, cheap and easy to look
over the fit of the air cleaner to the engine. If there's a gap or rip in
there it would do what you describe. temporarily removing the air filter
from the housing would also increase the speed at which the whistle starts.

Mike


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Old 10 Oct 2006, 02:28 pm
highkm
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The load on the wheel bearing is greater as you go faster. Eventually
the half-shafts exert a much higher force on the wheel and therefore
the bearings, then when the cars is moving at a slow constant speed. I
am not entirely sure whether it is the transmission, transaxle or the
wheel bearings. What is for sure is when I go down hill at 130Km/h and
shift into neutral from drive, the noise begins to appear at about
125KM/h. It is not as loud as when it is in gear, but nevertheless, it
is there. I could also hear it slightly when coasting at around 40KM/h.
I am more inclined to believe that it is something in the transmission
i.e. where the half-shafts meet with the rest of the transmission
mechanism like the axle etc.

Dan.
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "highkm" <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:1160358844.062035.144350@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> > This occurs with windows up or down. The nosie can be modulated by the
> > gas pedal at those speeds i.e. if while the noise is heard I slightly
> > increase the gas the noise is louder, and if I let go off the gas pedal
> > the noise disappears. It may be front wheel bearings or transmission.
> > Everyone that knows something abouth car mechanics states that it's
> > wheel bearings. I have had many bearings go on my previous cars, but I
> > have never had whisling wheel bearings.
> >

>
> The only one I had whistle was eating its way through the hub! Actually, it
> was more of a screech....
>
> I am really intrigued about the change in sound with the accelerator pedal;
> wheel bearings normally don't care what you are doing with the accelerator.
> How would the wheel bearings know? I'm thinking a vacuum leak from above the
> throttle plate, but it could also be anything in the power train; engine,
> transmission, axles. Narrowing it down from there may take some ingenuity
> and persistence.
>
> A thought occurs to me, though - it would be quick, cheap and easy to look
> over the fit of the air cleaner to the engine. If there's a gap or rip in
> there it would do what you describe. temporarily removing the air filter
> from the housing would also increase the speed at which the whistle starts.
>
> Mike


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Old 23 Oct 2006, 02:27 pm
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Default Re: 2003 Accord Whistles at 123KM/h

I had the vehicle diagnosed. The noise is being made by a resonating
gear selector cable (control cable). The cable+bushings (bushings are
the cause) is $225. The total cost is approximately $500.

Does anyone know where I can get a diagram that shows how it's
replaced?

Thanks a bunch.


highkm wrote:
> The load on the wheel bearing is greater as you go faster. Eventually
> the half-shafts exert a much higher force on the wheel and therefore
> the bearings, then when the cars is moving at a slow constant speed. I
> am not entirely sure whether it is the transmission, transaxle or the
> wheel bearings. What is for sure is when I go down hill at 130Km/h and
> shift into neutral from drive, the noise begins to appear at about
> 125KM/h. It is not as loud as when it is in gear, but nevertheless, it
> is there. I could also hear it slightly when coasting at around 40KM/h.
> I am more inclined to believe that it is something in the transmission
> i.e. where the half-shafts meet with the rest of the transmission
> mechanism like the axle etc.
>
> Dan.
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > "highkm" <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in message
> > news:1160358844.062035.144350@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> > > This occurs with windows up or down. The nosie can be modulated by the
> > > gas pedal at those speeds i.e. if while the noise is heard I slightly
> > > increase the gas the noise is louder, and if I let go off the gas pedal
> > > the noise disappears. It may be front wheel bearings or transmission.
> > > Everyone that knows something abouth car mechanics states that it's
> > > wheel bearings. I have had many bearings go on my previous cars, but I
> > > have never had whisling wheel bearings.
> > >

> >
> > The only one I had whistle was eating its way through the hub! Actually, it
> > was more of a screech....
> >
> > I am really intrigued about the change in sound with the accelerator pedal;
> > wheel bearings normally don't care what you are doing with the accelerator.
> > How would the wheel bearings know? I'm thinking a vacuum leak from above the
> > throttle plate, but it could also be anything in the power train; engine,
> > transmission, axles. Narrowing it down from there may take some ingenuity
> > and persistence.
> >
> > A thought occurs to me, though - it would be quick, cheap and easy to look
> > over the fit of the air cleaner to the engine. If there's a gap or rip in
> > there it would do what you describe. temporarily removing the air filter
> > from the housing would also increase the speed at which the whistle starts.
> >
> > Mike


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Old 23 Oct 2006, 05:53 pm
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Default Re: 2003 Accord Whistles at 123KM/h

highkm wrote:
>
> I had the vehicle diagnosed. The noise is being made by a resonating
> gear selector cable (control cable). The cable+bushings (bushings are
> the cause) is $225. The total cost is approximately $500.
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a diagram that shows how it's
> replaced?
>
> Thanks a bunch.


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