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Old 03 Oct 2006, 01:16 am
TE Chea
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Default design flaw : F20A 's air intake gets useless heat from radiator*coolant (part 2)

Intake manifold has asbestos gasket to insulate heat ( from cylinder
head ), but the 9 nuts which lock manifold onto cylinder head have
no asbestos washer, so heat enters manifold via [i] these 9 nuts [ii]
the exhaust gas channeled to EGR valve [iii] * channeled through
manifold .[iv] manifold chamber via EAC & Fast Idle valves.
http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d800cf4a6.gif
Designer seemingly assumed ambient air is never >20ºC ( can be
seen from exhaust manifold's front & rear covers
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...13sm40_d08.gif
- meant to keep exhaust gas hot, unnecessary & bad in warmer
climate ), & users will use * to heat their seats' spaces, so * will
not be >40ºC.
To further cool air intake, I use polystyrene & rubber washers to
insulate chamber from these 2 valves, glued 3 heatsinks onto
chamber, fitted copper wires & hoses ( with water & surfactant )
onto chamber & throttle body. Then air intake is cooler : warm-
starts & hill climbing are easier, in even 27ºC ambient air, let
alone in hotter weather.
These 2 valves' insulations also make Fast Idle valve heat up &
reduce idling rpm sooner, & save petrol during idling / coasting.
I could not post here a photo of my F20A's chamber & valves,
looks like neither NG now allows any photo.


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Old 03 Oct 2006, 07:26 pm
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Default Re: design flaw : F20A 's air intake gets useless heat from radiator*coolant (part 2)

I am Tee Hee Chia Pet and I now give you five more defects I find with
my Honda.

1. Exhaust system is made of metal instead of carbon fibre. Not only
is it heavier and more prone to rust but we need more carbon fibre in
our diet.

2. Spring loaded lid on coin box is always pushing backward against
car which slow it down and cause the battery to go dead. I turned
mine around and now it pushes the car forward and it is a lot faster.
Maserati coin box covers are all designed this way.

3. My battery dies all the time because I leave the lights on and the
car just chimes instead saying "Hey you ****ing moron, you left the
lights on again." This technology was standard in the 1980 LeBaron.

4. I busted the headlights with a hammer and now the battery doesn't
run down but the annoying chime still sounds. Honda should make cars
with no headlights just like Mercedes started doing a hundred years
ago.

5. The cabin has a poor layout. Too much Ying, not enough Yang. I
paid a Feng Shui master to adjust the Chi and now the gas milage is
much better. Also car is more at peace with the road.


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Old 03 Oct 2006, 08:58 pm
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Default Re: design flaw : F20A 's air intake gets useless heat from radiator*coolant (part 2)

Tee Hee Chia Pet <chiapet@loonybin.com> wrote in
news:vov5i2d49j3mqun39i850knlc8le6qad7d@4ax.com:

> I am Tee Hee Chia Pet and I now give you five more defects I find with
> my Honda.
>
> 1. Exhaust system is made of metal instead of carbon fibre. Not only
> is it heavier and more prone to rust but we need more carbon fibre in
> our diet.




You are wrong, Mr. Chia Pet. Exhaust should be made of bean sprouts.
Bean sprouts contain much fiber. Make you very regular.


>
> 2. Spring loaded lid on coin box is always pushing backward against
> car which slow it down and cause the battery to go dead. I turned
> mine around and now it pushes the car forward and it is a lot faster.
> Maserati coin box covers are all designed this way.




Do not put coins in coin box, unless they are Kazakhstan shillings.
Kazakhstan shillings very aerodynamic. Very swoopy. Go down very fast
and worth nothing in minutes! Socialist economics at work...


>
> 3. My battery dies all the time because I leave the lights on and the
> car just chimes instead saying "Hey you ****ing moron, you left the
> lights on again." This technology was standard in the 1980 LeBaron.




But did the voice say this in blue LED lights? If not, you are imagining
this.


>
> 4. I busted the headlights with a hammer and now the battery doesn't
> run down but the annoying chime still sounds. Honda should make cars
> with no headlights just like Mercedes started doing a hundred years
> ago.



You have not seen '69 Buick Skylark GS. Those funky lights, let me tell
you. They flip UP out of sight. You can only see them if you open the
hood, and then they blind you, and then you reduced to begging until
Buddah call you home.



>
> 5. The cabin has a poor layout. Too much Ying, not enough Yang. I
> paid a Feng Shui master to adjust the Chi and now the gas milage is
> much better. Also car is more at peace with the road.
>
>
>




I tried that, but unfortunately I summoned spirit of CHE, not CHI.
Spirit of CHE came with AK-47 and killed all Yins and Yangs within
200 yards radius. Too bad. I all alone now.





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Old 04 Oct 2006, 05:58 pm
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Default Re: design flaw : F20A 's air intake gets useless heat from radiator*coolant (part 2)

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9851DF96255FEtegger@207.14.116.130...
> Tee Hee Chia Pet <chiapet@loonybin.com> wrote in
> news:vov5i2d49j3mqun39i850knlc8le6qad7d@4ax.com:
>
>>
>> 5. The cabin has a poor layout. Too much Ying, not enough Yang. I
>> paid a Feng Shui master to adjust the Chi and now the gas milage is
>> much better. Also car is more at peace with the road.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
> I tried that, but unfortunately I summoned spirit of CHE, not CHI.
> Spirit of CHE came with AK-47 and killed all Yins and Yangs within
> 200 yards radius. Too bad. I all alone now.
>
>

Now, that's just plain silly.

Mike


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Old 04 Oct 2006, 08:36 pm
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Default Re: design flaw : F20A 's air intake gets useless heat from radiator*coolant (part 2)

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:kumdnXea8aM0obnYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@sedona.net:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9851DF96255FEtegger@207.14.116.130...
>> Tee Hee Chia Pet <chiapet@loonybin.com> wrote in
>> news:vov5i2d49j3mqun39i850knlc8le6qad7d@4ax.com:
>>
>>>
>>> 5. The cabin has a poor layout. Too much Ying, not enough Yang. I
>>> paid a Feng Shui master to adjust the Chi and now the gas milage is
>>> much better. Also car is more at peace with the road.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> I tried that, but unfortunately I summoned spirit of CHE, not CHI.
>> Spirit of CHE came with AK-47 and killed all Yins and Yangs within
>> 200 yards radius. Too bad. I all alone now.
>>
>>

> Now, that's just plain silly.
>
> Mike
>
>
>


WHY does ANYONE -respond- to shit posts like this?

you're just encouraging them.

Do you LIKE spammers?

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Old 04 Oct 2006, 08:58 pm
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9852DBC3FA08Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
> news:kumdnXea8aM0obnYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@sedona.net:
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9851DF96255FEtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>> Tee Hee Chia Pet <chiapet@loonybin.com> wrote in
>>> news:vov5i2d49j3mqun39i850knlc8le6qad7d@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>> 5. The cabin has a poor layout. Too much Ying, not enough Yang. I
>>>> paid a Feng Shui master to adjust the Chi and now the gas milage is
>>>> much better. Also car is more at peace with the road.
>>>
>>> I tried that, but unfortunately I summoned spirit of CHE, not CHI.
>>> Spirit of CHE came with AK-47 and killed all Yins and Yangs within
>>> 200 yards radius. Too bad. I all alone now.
>>>

>> Now, that's just plain silly.

>
> WHY does ANYONE -respond- to shit posts like this?


Because it is amusing and breaks up the "hum-drum".

> you're just encouraging them.
>
> Do you LIKE spammers?


Spammer? What's he/she/it selling?


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Old 04 Oct 2006, 09:55 pm
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Default Re: design flaw : F20A 's air intake gets useless heat from radiator*coolant (part 2)

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9852DBC3FA08Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
>
> WHY does ANYONE -respond- to shit posts like this?
>
> you're just encouraging them.
>
> Do you LIKE spammers?
>


This has been a fun thread. TE Chea isn't a spammer (I think this is the
only place I've seen him) and I don't even think he is a troll; he just has
some odd ideas. That doesn't mean he will never have a good idea. And I must
say he takes the ribbing without obvious backlash. We've certainly seen
worse.

Mike

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man is talking rot, and that, in my view, is the main, if not the sole,
purpose of education." - John Alexander Smith


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Old 05 Oct 2006, 06:59 am
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TE Chea wrote:
> Intake manifold has asbestos gasket to insulate heat ( from cylinder
> head ), but the 9 nuts which lock manifold onto cylinder head have
> no asbestos washer, so heat enters manifold via [i] these 9 nuts [ii]
> the exhaust gas channeled to EGR valve [iii] * channeled through
> manifold .[iv] manifold chamber via EAC & Fast Idle valves.
> http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d800cf4a6.gif
> Designer seemingly assumed ambient air is never >20ºC ( can be
> seen from exhaust manifold's front & rear covers
> http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...13sm40_d08.gif
> - meant to keep exhaust gas hot, unnecessary & bad in warmer
> climate ), & users will use * to heat their seats' spaces, so * will
> not be >40ºC.
> To further cool air intake, I use polystyrene & rubber washers to
> insulate chamber from these 2 valves,


How do you get styrene to hold up to the heat under the hood? Because
even far away from the engine, I would think that styrene wouldn't
survive. I've even had styrene start to melt even inside the passenger
compartment when parked in the sun and with the windows rolled up here
in Phoenix.

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Old 05 Oct 2006, 07:28 am
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Default Re: design flaw : F20A 's air intake gets useless heat from radiator*coolant (part 2)

Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns9852DBC3FA08Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86:

> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
> news:kumdnXea8aM0obnYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@sedona.net:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9851DF96255FEtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>> Tee Hee Chia Pet <chiapet@loonybin.com> wrote in
>>> news:vov5i2d49j3mqun39i850knlc8le6qad7d@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5. The cabin has a poor layout. Too much Ying, not enough Yang.
>>>> I paid a Feng Shui master to adjust the Chi and now the gas milage
>>>> is much better. Also car is more at peace with the road.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried that, but unfortunately I summoned spirit of CHE, not CHI.
>>> Spirit of CHE came with AK-47 and killed all Yins and Yangs within
>>> 200 yards radius. Too bad. I all alone now.
>>>
>>>

>> Now, that's just plain silly.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>

>
> WHY does ANYONE -respond- to shit posts like this?
>
> you're just encouraging them.
>
> Do you LIKE spammers?
>



I having fun. Yin and Yang very relaxing to my inscrutable soul.
Until CHE show up, that is. CHE bad man. Not Feng Shui.


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Old 05 Oct 2006, 07:29 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:WPSdnS1Ca8WU6bnYnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@sedona.net:

> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns9852DBC3FA08Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
>>
>> WHY does ANYONE -respond- to shit posts like this?
>>
>> you're just encouraging them.
>>
>> Do you LIKE spammers?
>>

>
> This has been a fun thread. TE Chea isn't a spammer (I think this is
> the only place I've seen him) and I don't even think he is a troll; he
> just has some odd ideas. That doesn't mean he will never have a good
> idea. And I must say he takes the ribbing without obvious backlash.
> We've certainly seen worse.




He used to hang out in rec.autos.tech, posting just about the same stuff.
He got laughed out of there, so I guess he's looking for a home.

He used to call himself TE Cheah (with an "h" on the end).


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