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Old 20 Sep 2006, 12:36 pm
The Man
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Default URGENT! Brake Help

I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
the adjuster to the smallest it will go.

I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
maybe not since it's not going back together.

Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
today!

Thanks

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Old 20 Sep 2006, 03:31 pm
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"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in news:1158773809.184308.165240
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> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>




Is the adjuster loose even with the shoe return spring in place?



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Old 20 Sep 2006, 03:35 pm
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>
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks


Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate?
Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's pistons in
before connecting it to the brake line. This could cause a "hydraulic lock"
preventing the shoes from coming back to a full return position. If you
suspect this might be the case, try opening the bleeder valve to see if the
return springs pull the shoes inward.

Eric
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Old 20 Sep 2006, 04:10 pm
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Default Re: URGENT! Brake Help

Try pushing the wheel cylinder pistons in, I assume you already bleed
the line.

The Man wrote:
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks


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Old 20 Sep 2006, 06:33 pm
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"The Man" <MrChrisPeters@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks
>


In addition to the other comments, make sure the slotted pieces (cylinder
ends and adjuster) are seated on the shoes. I've had them bind and not allow
the shoes to come in all the way.

If only one side is the problem, you can compare clearances to the other
side. Otherwise, is it possible the parts you got are wrong?

Mike


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Old 20 Sep 2006, 06:36 pm
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Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment?




The Man wrote:
> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into a
> problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've turned
> the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>
> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>
> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
> today!
>
> Thanks
>

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Old 20 Sep 2006, 06:49 pm
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Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in
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>
>
> The Man wrote:
>> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
>> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into
>> a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've
>> turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go.

>
>
>
> Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment?




That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off.

The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car in an
attempt to fix this.


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Old 20 Sep 2006, 06:50 pm
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Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:4511A603.E91C6422@spam.now:

>>
>> I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
>> replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into
>> a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've
>> turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go.
>>
>> I'm 99% positive that I have everything back together correctly. But
>> maybe not since it's not going back together.
>>
>> Any advice or suggestions are very welcome. I need to get this fixed
>> today!
>>
>> Thanks

>
> Perhaps the brake shoe assembly is not centered on the backing plate?
> Another possibility is that you did not push the wheel cylinder's
> pistons in before connecting it to the brake line.




I've always found that installation of the return spring is enough to press
the pistons all the way in.


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Old 20 Sep 2006, 08:44 pm
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TeGGeR® wrote:
> Al <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in
> news:bgkQg.198$OM3.136@newsfe11.lga:
>
>
>>
>>The Man wrote:
>>
>>>I'm replacing my rear drum pads on my 92 Honda Civic. I also had to
>>>replace a wheel cylinder. I got everything back together and ran into
>>>a problem. I can't get the drum to fit of the new brake pads. I've
>>>turned the adjuster to the smallest it will go.

>>
>>
>>
>>Did you back off the emergency brake cable adjustment?

>
>
>
>
> That IS the adjuster within the drum, which he did back off.
>
> The OP is warned NOT to back off the cable adjustment inside the car in an
> attempt to fix this.
>
>


You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where
someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three
clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you don't
loosen it back up those drums are not going on.
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Old 20 Sep 2006, 10:07 pm
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"Al" <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> You have never come across a car (especially a 14 year old one) where
> someone has tightened the parking brake cable in order to get to three
> clicks - maybe because the self adjusters weren't working? If you don't
> loosen it back up those drums are not going on.


When I've had bad self-adjusters the pedal play was bad enough that I never
even gave the parking brake a thought.

Mike


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