Honda Car Forum


 

Go Back   Honda Car Forum - Accord Parts Civic Tuning Acura Racing > Honda Acura > Honda 2

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 15 Aug 2011, 06:12 pm
Karl
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

I just saw the recent consumer reports article and it conflicts with everything else I've read everywhere about this car.

http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2...html?sub=sedan


--------------= Posted using GrabIt =----------------
------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =---------
-= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =-

Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 15 Aug 2011, 10:04 pm
billzz
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

Well, truth-in-lending we own a 2010 Honda Pilot Touring, and my son owned a 2009 Civic STI? - something like that. He let me take it to the dealer for the oil change. Wonderful car.

So why am I posting? In 1964 (okay I am old) I was looking for a new car, just being promoted to captain in the great United States of America Army and commanding a unit at Fort Benning, Georgia (the home of the Infantry - Iam supposed to say that.)

Anyway I went to the post library and looked up the Consumer Reports whatever, whatever. I had to go through a lot of them before I found out what they recommended. Wait for it....

It was a Nash Rambler.

I asked and I asked. And I found out that Consumer Reports only likes small cars, with small engines, with gas mileage, and they do not care if you suffer. You should suffer! They are in New York and they do not think thatanyone should be driving a car. You are supposed to be taking the Long Island Railroad!

Anyway, I found an ad in the Atlanta newspaper about this dentist who had to sell his car, because his wife could not drive it.

And that is how I bought a 1962 E-Type Jaguar for $1800.00.

That car is worth $60-100K today and a Nash Rambler is worth shit.

So much for Consumer Reports.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 15 Aug 2011, 10:16 pm
jim beam
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

On 08/15/2011 04:12 PM, Karl wrote:
> I just saw the recent consumer reports article and it conflicts with everything else I've read everywhere about this car.
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2...html?sub=sedan


but does that report conflict with the, um, "sponsorship" or
"contributions" or "advertising" from american honda to that august
publication? i think not.


--
nomina rutrum rutrum
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 16 Aug 2011, 06:34 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

In article <j2c96l$api$1@dont-email.me>, "Karl" <No@Spam.Please.Com>
wrote:

> I just saw the recent consumer reports article and it conflicts with
> everything else I've read everywhere about this car.
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2...html?sub=sedan


Hey Harvey,

I'm still waiting for your invoice.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 16 Aug 2011, 06:36 pm
Harvey
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:34:40 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>Hey Harvey,
>
>I'm still waiting for your invoice.
>
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


LOL! I don't know this Karl douche from Adam, and I dropped your
invoice off at the homeless shelter where you live, and they said
you're still in jail for molesting that 85 year old man and stealing
his shopping cart, so you haven't been by to pick it up yet. I'm not
holding my breath on being able to collect, after all invoicing
someone who has nothing I want doesn't seem like something I want to
spend that much time on.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 17 Aug 2011, 09:03 am
Masterfaulzen
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

In article <j2c96l$api$1@dont-email.me>, No@Spam.Please.Com says...
>
>I just saw the recent consumer reports article and it conflicts with everything else I've read everywhere about this car.
>
>http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2...html?sub=sedan


There was a time when Consumer Reports was useful. They had a staff of
testers that did their best to evaluate whatever product samples they
had to work with. This is often challenging with relatively expensive
samples like autos, because the quantity of product samples is often
"one".

If you could plot the diminishing value of Consumer Reports on a
timeline graph next to a timeline showing the popularization of the Web,
you would see a direct correlation. This is because the power of the
consumer to directly rate products (cars or anything else for that
matter) typically adds a lot more value to product evaluation than
anything a single magazine article could put forth.

I have not driven these cars yet but plan to evaluate soon for my
nephew, so I have no personal opinion to put forth yet about the car
itself. I will say that just as you said, I see the Consumer Reports
review sitting alone, outside of the general consensus.


Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 17 Aug 2011, 09:37 am
C. E. White
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong


"Masterfaulzen" <M4st3rf4ulz3n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.28b517a63023d3ca989680@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <j2c96l$api$1@dont-email.me>, No@Spam.Please.Com says...
>>
>>I just saw the recent consumer reports article and it conflicts with
>>everything else I've read everywhere about this car.
>>
>>http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2...html?sub=sedan

>
> There was a time when Consumer Reports was useful. They had a staff of
> testers that did their best to evaluate whatever product samples they
> had to work with. This is often challenging with relatively expensive
> samples like autos, because the quantity of product samples is often
> "one".
>
> If you could plot the diminishing value of Consumer Reports on a
> timeline graph next to a timeline showing the popularization of the Web,
> you would see a direct correlation. This is because the power of the
> consumer to directly rate products (cars or anything else for that
> matter) typically adds a lot more value to product evaluation than
> anything a single magazine article could put forth.
>
> I have not driven these cars yet but plan to evaluate soon for my
> nephew, so I have no personal opinion to put forth yet about the car
> itself. I will say that just as you said, I see the Consumer Reports
> review sitting alone, outside of the general consensus.


Almost all of the Edmunds reviews were from people that just bought the
Civic. And most were previous Honda owners. Do you really think they are
objective? When was the last time you bought a new car and immeadiately
trashed it in an online review or even when talking to friends? As pointed
out previously, even the supposedly positive Car and Driver review was more
akin to damning the new Civic with faint praise than an enthusiast buy
recommendation.

Ed


Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 17 Aug 2011, 02:35 pm
Masterfaulzen
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

In article <j2gjqs$sao$1@dont-email.me>, cewhite3@mindspring.com says...
>
>"Masterfaulzen" <M4st3rf4ulz3n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.28b517a63023d3ca989680@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <j2c96l$api$1@dont-email.me>, No@Spam.Please.Com says...
>>>
>>>I just saw the recent consumer reports article and it conflicts with
>>>everything else I've read everywhere about this car.
>>>
>>>http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2...html?sub=sedan

>>
>> There was a time when Consumer Reports was useful. They had a staff of
>> testers that did their best to evaluate whatever product samples they
>> had to work with. This is often challenging with relatively expensive
>> samples like autos, because the quantity of product samples is often
>> "one".
>>
>> If you could plot the diminishing value of Consumer Reports on a
>> timeline graph next to a timeline showing the popularization of the Web,
>> you would see a direct correlation. This is because the power of the
>> consumer to directly rate products (cars or anything else for that
>> matter) typically adds a lot more value to product evaluation than
>> anything a single magazine article could put forth.
>>
>> I have not driven these cars yet but plan to evaluate soon for my
>> nephew, so I have no personal opinion to put forth yet about the car
>> itself. I will say that just as you said, I see the Consumer Reports
>> review sitting alone, outside of the general consensus.

>
>Almost all of the Edmunds reviews were from people that just bought the
>Civic. And most were previous Honda owners. Do you really think they are
>objective?


Are they objective? Yes. The reviewers often point out things they
don't like about the car as well as what they do like. I have also seen
plenty of reviews that were posted after a couple of years of ownership
on Edmunds.

Do they accurately reflect the opinions of folks who tried the car model
in question and opted instead for a different car? Of course not, but
you can solve this problem by reading and contrasting reviews across
multiple makes.

>When was the last time you bought a new car and immeadiately
>trashed it in an online review or even when talking to friends?


It's not going to happen to most people, if they didn't like it in the
test drive they would not have bought it to begin with.

I've written countless reviews on Edmunds and other sites of new cars
that I have driven, either in a test drive or as a loaner, citing things
I liked or did not about it. Not everyone does that of course.

I still find collective feedback from actual owners of any given car far
more valuable than a consumer reports review of a single car.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 19 Aug 2011, 06:24 pm
Peabody
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

Karl says...

> I just saw the recent consumer reports article and it
> conflicts with everything else I've read everywhere
> about this car.


> http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2...nsumer-reviews
> .html?sub=sedan


Well I recently bought the LX sedan, so I'm not an objective
evaluator. Moreover, my previous car was a 94 Accord, so I
haven't exactly kept up with automotive advances year by
year.

But I would just say that I'm very happy with the Civic.
It's actually about the same size as the old Accord, and is
just right for zipping around town. The most impressive
feature - this summer, in Oklahoma (107 today) - is the A/C,
which really puts out without being noisy. The old Accord
was nothing like this.

Mileage on the highway, with ECON on, is around 40 mpg, and
the car handles just the way I like - very sure-footed, but
not too harsh. I get no sense at all that it's soft or
mushy like Toyotas can be. It actually does pretty well on
the highway, but you can still tell it's a small car when
things get bumpy. I've done four trips between Dallas and
Tulsa in the last month - about 4.5 hours each way - and
have not found them to be tiring.

The only thing I've noticed is that the shift points for the
automatic can be a bit goofy unless you give it a fair
amount of gas. If you're driving very gingerly, it seems to
have trouble deciding when to shift, and sometimes does so
too early, which leads to loss of acceleration. This is
most pronounced on ECON. Actually, I'm not really sure what
ECON is supposed to be doing. The manual isn't clear on
that.

Ok, I lied. One more thing. The headrests are too far
forward relative to the seat back. But that seems to be the
case with other cars I've driven. May look for a fix for
that.


Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 20 Aug 2011, 02:01 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 2012 Civic - Hands On Reviews are strong

In article <20110819-232436.953.0@news.astraweb.com>,
Peabody <waybackNO746SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well I recently bought the LX sedan, so I'm not an objective
> evaluator. Moreover, my previous car was a 94 Accord, so I
> haven't exactly kept up with automotive advances year by
> year.
>
> But I would just say that I'm very happy with the Civic.


And people who JUST got married are very happy with their spouses.

You just spent $20K+. You wouldn't express dissatisfaction with that
purchase if a gun were held to your head. Such regret and
dissatisfaction would show you to be an utter fool, and nobody is about
to admit anything like that.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Honda insight(2011) or civic(2012) or Toyota prius (2012)? James Kim Honda Technical 1 03 May 2011 02:16 am
2012 Honda CR V Reviews, Pictures, Prices and Specifications? aanchoo Honda Technical 3 23 Jan 2011 09:46 pm
1998 honda civic lx sedan d16y7 157xxx miles still running strong but want more power? joni Honda Technical 4 14 Apr 2010 04:01 pm
Strong Bull skylight Honda Videos 0 14 Feb 2009 10:50 pm
Why is it so difficult to get my 92 Civic in and out of park? It requires two hands.? lsrgtwertyer Honda Technical 6 06 Oct 2007 06:22 am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:23 pm.


Attribution:
Honda News | Autoblog
Powered by Yahoo Answers




Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 © 2011, Crawlability, Inc.
HondaCarForum.com is not affiliated with Honda Motor Company in any way. Honda Motor Company does not sponsor, support, or endorse HondaCarForum.com in any way. Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended or implied.