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Old 16 Aug 2006, 06:32 pm
John Horner
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Default Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet

It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM
brands show up in the top 10.


From:

http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter

Toyota: 23.4%

Honda: 12.4%

Ford: 9.6%

Chevrolet: 8.2%

Nissan: 7.0%

Mercedes-Benz: 3.7%

BMW: 3.7%

Lexus: 3.6%

Dodge: 3.6%

GMC: 2.6%

Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn.

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Old 16 Aug 2006, 06:40 pm
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Default Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet


"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM brands
> show up in the top 10.


Why? Buick, GMC, Pontiac, Caddy, Hummer, etc., are not that popular
anywhere. They're not great sellers. Nothing new about this.

Jeff

> From:
>
> http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second
> quarter
>
> Toyota: 23.4%
>
> Honda: 12.4%
>
> Ford: 9.6%
>
> Chevrolet: 8.2%
>
> Nissan: 7.0%
>
> Mercedes-Benz: 3.7%
>
> BMW: 3.7%
>
> Lexus: 3.6%
>
> Dodge: 3.6%
>
> GMC: 2.6%
>
> Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



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Old 16 Aug 2006, 07:48 pm
Myc Unter
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Default Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet


But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and
Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only
difference is style and price.

As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying
midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers.

myc unt

PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I
laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73.




On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:32:20 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM
>brands show up in the top 10.
>
>
>From:
>
>http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter
>
>Toyota: 23.4%
>
>Honda: 12.4%
>
>Ford: 9.6%
>
>Chevrolet: 8.2%
>
>Nissan: 7.0%
>
>Mercedes-Benz: 3.7%
>
>BMW: 3.7%
>
>Lexus: 3.6%
>
>Dodge: 3.6%
>
>GMC: 2.6%
>
>Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


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Old 16 Aug 2006, 09:18 pm
asadi
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Default Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet

I don't get it.

john


"Myc Unter" <mycunt843@throwawaymailbox.com> wrote in message
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>
> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and
> Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only
> difference is style and price.
>
> As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying
> midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers.
>
> myc unt
>
> PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I
> laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:32:20 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM
>>brands show up in the top 10.
>>
>>
>>From:
>>
>>http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second
>>quarter
>>
>>Toyota: 23.4%
>>
>>Honda: 12.4%
>>
>>Ford: 9.6%
>>
>>Chevrolet: 8.2%
>>
>>Nissan: 7.0%
>>
>>Mercedes-Benz: 3.7%
>>
>>BMW: 3.7%
>>
>>Lexus: 3.6%
>>
>>Dodge: 3.6%
>>
>>GMC: 2.6%
>>
>>Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>



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Old 16 Aug 2006, 09:58 pm
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Default Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet

Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can be
top/volume sellers.


John Horner wrote:
> It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM
> brands show up in the top 10.
>
>
> From:
>
> http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter
>
> Toyota: 23.4%
>
> Honda: 12.4%
>
> Ford: 9.6%
>
> Chevrolet: 8.2%
>
> Nissan: 7.0%
>
> Mercedes-Benz: 3.7%
>
> BMW: 3.7%
>
> Lexus: 3.6%
>
> Dodge: 3.6%
>
> GMC: 2.6%
>
> Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Old 16 Aug 2006, 10:33 pm
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Default Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet

Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in
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> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can
> be top/volume sellers.




Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages
from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab,
etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda.

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Old 16 Aug 2006, 11:09 pm
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"grappletech" <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote in message
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> Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03:
>
>> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can
>> be top/volume sellers.

>
>
>
> Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the
> percentages
> from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC,
> Saab,
> etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda.
>


But would you not then have to combine Toyota and Lexus - Honda and Acura -
Nisan and Infinity ?

Jack


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Old 16 Aug 2006, 11:12 pm
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Default Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet

"Myc Unter" <mycunt843@throwawaymailbox.com> wrote in message
news:u7e7e25arsiicee34ugnqh91mm3kmonp1v@4ax.com...
>
> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and
> Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only
> difference is style and price.
>
> As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying
> midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers.
>
> myc unt
>
> PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I
> laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73.
>
>

No problem guessing you are 73 and well into senility.

Jack

>
>
>



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Old 17 Aug 2006, 12:12 am
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Default Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet

grappletech wrote:
> Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03:
>
>> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can
>> be top/volume sellers.

>
>
>
> Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages
> from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab,
> etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda.
>


Not really. Chevy got 8.2%. GMC got 2.6%. Buick, Pontiac, Saturn and
Saab all clearly had lower numbers still. Let's be generous and guess
that BPSS got 5% between themselves. 8.2 + 2.6 + 5 = 15.8%. Toyota is
at 23.4. Toyota is so far ahead of the pack that there is no way GM
comes even close even if GM's BPSS brands pulled in 10% share (HAH!).

Also you would have to add Toyota + Lexus to be fair. Honda was at
12.4% without Acura. Maybe GM in total bested Honda + Acura, but if so
it wasn't by much. As far as product and sales effort efficiency Honda
has GM beaten by a wide margin in California. Honda has relatively few
models and they are all strong sellers. GM has strong selling trucks
and a passel of also-ran cars, minivans and crossovers.


If California is an indicator of things to come nationally then GM, Ford
and Chrysler remain in deep trouble.

John
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Old 17 Aug 2006, 12:13 am
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Default Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet

Myc Unter wrote:
> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and
> Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only
> difference is style and price.
>
> As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying
> midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers.
>
> myc unt
>
> PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I
> laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73.
>


Some things are noticed but not commented on.

John
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