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Honda, wrote the following at or about 8/15/2006 9:49 AM:
> I did not ignore the "CHECK ENGINE" light. This light came on just
> before it stopped. I am still waiting for response from the Honda
> service.

As I wrote, it was unclear.

Now that that's settled, given the rest of your statement of facts, it
should be of interest to the rest of us (as well as yourself<g>) to learn:

1) what failed, and

2) how the dealer and/or Honda treat you under what should obviously be
a warranty situation (assuming, of course, that you didn't get hit by a
missile fired from a Taliban hiding in a manhole on the roadway<g>).

What myself and others have said still applies though. You're a long
way - at this point - from invoking any "Lemon Law."

Given the quality product that seems to be Honda's hallmark, I for one
will be very surprised if they don't make it right and do so quickly.

Well !!! Surprisingly Just now I got answer from the Honda Service That
they said, the GAS tank has DIESEL in it.



Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> Honda, wrote the following at or about 8/15/2006 9:49 AM:
> > I did not ignore the "CHECK ENGINE" light. This light came on just
> > before it stopped. I am still waiting for response from the Honda
> > service.
>
> As I wrote, it was unclear.
>
> Now that that's settled, given the rest of your statement of facts, it
> should be of interest to the rest of us (as well as yourself<g>) to learn:
>
> 1) what failed, and
>
> 2) how the dealer and/or Honda treat you under what should obviously be
> a warranty situation (assuming, of course, that you didn't get hit by a
> missile fired from a Taliban hiding in a manhole on the roadway<g>).
>
> What myself and others have said still applies though. You're a long
> way - at this point - from invoking any "Lemon Law."
>
> Given the quality product that seems to be Honda's hallmark, I for one
> will be very surprised if they don't make it right and do so quickly.

Honda, wrote the following at or about 8/15/2006 1:15 PM:
> Well !!! Surprisingly Just now I got answer from the Honda Service That
> they said, the GAS tank has DIESEL in it.


Oops! Well, somebody is going to pay dearly for repairs/replacement but
it sure doesn't sound like it'll be either your dealer or Honda.

"Honda" <dennis197@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1155665722.813381.306530@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com:

> Well !!! Surprisingly Just now I got answer from the Honda Service
> That they said, the GAS tank has DIESEL in it.



Who did the last fillup? And didn't they notice the nozzle handle had an
odd color and odor?

Sorry to say, this one is your problem 100%. Honda is not responsible for
customers who put diesel into a gasoline-fueled vehicle. This is NOT an
easy mistake to make for anybody who is paying any sort of attention.

Diesel nozzles are of a larger diameter than unleaded gasoline ones, and
cannot be fully inserted into an unleaded gasoline filler neck, so the
mismatch must have been obvious.

Back in the day, leaded gas nozzles and diesel nozzles were the same size,
so it was easy to mix them up, provided you ignored the smell and the oil
stains all over the ground...


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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:33:38 +0000 (UTC), "TeGGeR®"
<tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>"Honda" <dennis197@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:1155665722.813381.306530@b28g2000cwb.googleg roups.com:
>
>> Well !!! Surprisingly Just now I got answer from the Honda Service
>> That they said, the GAS tank has DIESEL in it.
>
>
>
>Who did the last fillup? And didn't they notice the nozzle handle had an
>odd color and odor?
>
>Sorry to say, this one is your problem 100%. Honda is not responsible for
>customers who put diesel into a gasoline-fueled vehicle. This is NOT an
>easy mistake to make for anybody who is paying any sort of attention.
>
>Diesel nozzles are of a larger diameter than unleaded gasoline ones, and
>cannot be fully inserted into an unleaded gasoline filler neck, so the
>mismatch must have been obvious.
>
>Back in the day, leaded gas nozzles and diesel nozzles were the same size,
>so it was easy to mix them up, provided you ignored the smell and the oil
>stains all over the ground...

Any idea what harm would be caused by diesel fuel? I would assume
mostly fuel system problems, but how extensive?

Can't understand how he could do this if the nozzle is bigger. Could
be that the big tank was misfilled in which case there are going to be
a lot of claims over it.

Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:gas4e2lai4c5fnti04u6el9htbuugtklk1@4ax.com:
>
> Any idea what harm would be caused by diesel fuel? I would assume
> mostly fuel system problems, but how extensive?


No damage. It's just that modern spark ignition engines don't combust oil
very well.

Drain the diesel from the tank, refill with gas, then just keep cranking
until gasoline reachs the injectors. It would be a bit easier if the
vehicle in question didn't have a returnless system.



>
> Can't understand how he could do this if the nozzle is bigger. Could
> be that the big tank was misfilled in which case there are going to be
> a lot of claims over it.


Yeah, if we're talking a "we serve" pump, or a station in New Jersey...




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TeGGeR® wrote:
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:gas4e2lai4c5fnti04u6el9htbuugtklk1@4ax.com:
>>
>> Any idea what harm would be caused by diesel fuel? I would assume
>> mostly fuel system problems, but how extensive?
>
>
> No damage. It's just that modern spark ignition engines don't combust
> oil very well.
>
> Drain the diesel from the tank, refill with gas, then just keep
> cranking until gasoline reachs the injectors. It would be a bit
> easier if the vehicle in question didn't have a returnless system.
>
>
>
>>
>> Can't understand how he could do this if the nozzle is bigger. Could
>> be that the big tank was misfilled in which case there are going to
>> be a lot of claims over it.
>
>
> Yeah, if we're talking a "we serve" pump, or a station in New
> Jersey...

Or if a teenager borrowed used car (diesel is a few cents cheaper these
days....)

It seems that the current generation of teens is mechanically inept.

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in
news:UFKFg.16473$o27.235@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:

> TeGGeR® wrote:
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in
>> news:gas4e2lai4c5fnti04u6el9htbuugtklk1@4ax.com:
>>>
>>> Any idea what harm would be caused by diesel fuel? I would assume
>>> mostly fuel system problems, but how extensive?
>>
>>
>> No damage. It's just that modern spark ignition engines don't combust
>> oil very well.
>>
>> Drain the diesel from the tank, refill with gas, then just keep
>> cranking until gasoline reachs the injectors. It would be a bit
>> easier if the vehicle in question didn't have a returnless system.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Can't understand how he could do this if the nozzle is bigger. Could
>>> be that the big tank was misfilled in which case there are going to
>>> be a lot of claims over it.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, if we're talking a "we serve" pump, or a station in New
>> Jersey...
>
> Or if a teenager borrowed used car (diesel is a few cents cheaper these
> days....)



Depends where the gas price is. Around here, diesel is pretty constant. Gas
fluctuates up and down around the diesel price, so sometimes diesel is
actually more expensive.


>
> It seems that the current generation of teens is mechanically inept.
>


They were in my day too.


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TeGGeR® wrote:
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in
> news:UFKFg.16473$o27.235@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
>
>> TeGGeR® wrote:
>>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in
>>> news:gas4e2lai4c5fnti04u6el9htbuugtklk1@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>> Any idea what harm would be caused by diesel fuel? I would assume
>>>> mostly fuel system problems, but how extensive?
>>>
>>>
>>> No damage. It's just that modern spark ignition engines don't
>>> combust oil very well.
>>>
>>> Drain the diesel from the tank, refill with gas, then just keep
>>> cranking until gasoline reachs the injectors. It would be a bit
>>> easier if the vehicle in question didn't have a returnless system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can't understand how he could do this if the nozzle is bigger.
>>>> Could be that the big tank was misfilled in which case there are
>>>> going to be a lot of claims over it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, if we're talking a "we serve" pump, or a station in New
>>> Jersey...
>>
>> Or if a teenager borrowed used car (diesel is a few cents cheaper
>> these days....)
>
>
>
> Depends where the gas price is. Around here, diesel is pretty
> constant. Gas fluctuates up and down around the diesel price, so
> sometimes diesel is actually more expensive.
>
>
>>
>> It seems that the current generation of teens is mechanically inept.
>>
>
>
> They were in my day too.

I'm just not accustomed to some of the answers I get. Me: "You should check
your oil"......Teenager's response (daughter's friend): "how do I do
that"....my reply: "never mind".