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Old 15 Aug 2006, 07:46 pm
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Default Re: civic fuel pump help needed

it was backfiring thru the throttle body. ive tried pouring gas into the
throttle body and it didnt make it start. i don't know if my gas gauge is
sticking or not. it's staying in the same spot. just below 1/4 of a tank. my
battery is dead now from having a goofy friend try different things with it
sunday. if it has no gas in the tank or very low gas would it still be able
to pump a little thru the fuel line? i know when i put the fuel line into a
milk jug i got a little gas out of it from trying to start the car that
would mean it probably has gas i would assume. i'm charging my battery and
i'm going to maybe try adding some more gas to it. i have to get to a gas
station though. as far as the main relay or a relay. i don't even know what
to check on that.

thanks,
-jeff
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>> the car did start yesterday. i'm going to get about 2 1/2 gallons of
>> gas and put that in it and try it. i'll post the results.

>
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> You must know something we haven't been told...
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Old 15 Aug 2006, 07:56 pm
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Default Re: civic fuel pump help needed

Jeff wrote:
> it was backfiring thru the throttle body.


the timing belt's jumped. fix that before you waste time and money with
anything else. make sure it's tensioned correctly next time. i've
posted recently here on how to tension the belt. google is your friend.

> ive tried pouring gas into the
> throttle body and it didnt make it start. i don't know if my gas gauge is
> sticking or not. it's staying in the same spot. just below 1/4 of a tank. my
> battery is dead now from having a goofy friend try different things with it
> sunday. if it has no gas in the tank or very low gas would it still be able
> to pump a little thru the fuel line? i know when i put the fuel line into a
> milk jug i got a little gas out of it from trying to start the car that
> would mean it probably has gas i would assume. i'm charging my battery and
> i'm going to maybe try adding some more gas to it. i have to get to a gas
> station though. as far as the main relay or a relay. i don't even know what
> to check on that.
>
> thanks,
> -jeff
> "TeGGeR�" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9820CFD59B061tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Jeff" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> newsotEg.9520$9T3.629@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net :
>>
>>> the car did start yesterday. i'm going to get about 2 1/2 gallons of
>>> gas and put that in it and try it. i'll post the results.

>>
>>
>> You must know something we haven't been told...
>>
>>
>> --
>> TeGGeR�
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
>

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Old 15 Aug 2006, 08:00 pm
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jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
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> Jeff wrote:
>> it was backfiring thru the throttle body.

>
> the timing belt's jumped. fix that before you waste time and money
> with anything else.




jim, forget this guy. He wants everything handed to him on a silver
platter.

He's a dolt. Or very, very young. I'm outta this one.

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Old 15 Aug 2006, 08:28 pm
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"TeGGeRï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï ¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½" wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
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>> Jeff wrote:
>>> it was backfiring thru the throttle body.

>> the timing belt's jumped. fix that before you waste time and money
>> with anything else.

>
>
>
> jim, forget this guy. He wants everything handed to him on a silver
> platter.
>
> He's a dolt. Or very, very young. I'm outta this one.
>

i didn't bother to read the whole thread...
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Old 18 Aug 2006, 02:17 am
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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> >"jim beam" wrote:


> > almost certainly relay. honda pumps are /very/ reliable and rarely
> > fail, even at extraordinary mileage.
> >

>
> The ones I've heard of fail are the ones where the owner keeps the tank
> near-empty all the time, and puts just enough in to keep the low-fuel light
> off.


I believe the problem most likely lies on the driver. Even with the low light,
the pump still circulates, in effect it still runs cool. What explain why my
original pump has about 280k miles on it and I put just enough gas to
keep the low light off? 50% of the time the low light is on before I fill up.







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Old 18 Aug 2006, 02:40 pm
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Default Re: civic fuel pump help needed

it doesnt even have a low fuel light..i dont care what mr. tegger thinks.
something is wrong with the car i can't figure it out but i may have it
checked by a mechanic before i decide to part it out. it was a faithful car
and i got my moneys worth out of it. i'm buying another honda hopefully.

-jeff
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> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> >"jim beam" wrote:

>
>> > almost certainly relay. honda pumps are /very/ reliable and rarely
>> > fail, even at extraordinary mileage.
>> >

>>
>> The ones I've heard of fail are the ones where the owner keeps the tank
>> near-empty all the time, and puts just enough in to keep the low-fuel
>> light
>> off.

>
> I believe the problem most likely lies on the driver. Even with the low
> light,
> the pump still circulates, in effect it still runs cool. What explain why
> my
> original pump has about 280k miles on it and I put just enough gas to
> keep the low light off? 50% of the time the low light is on before I fill
> up.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Old 18 Aug 2006, 07:21 pm
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"Jeff" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:MIoFg.10525$kO3.6284@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...

> it doesnt even have a low fuel light..i dont care what mr. tegger thinks.
> something is wrong with the car i can't figure it out but i may have it
> checked by a mechanic before i decide to part it out. it was a faithful car
> and i got my moneys worth out of it. i'm buying another honda hopefully.


Why don't you explain how you align the timing marks when you put in the timing belt?






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Old 18 Aug 2006, 09:27 pm
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"Burt" <burtsquareman@none.com> wrote in
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> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> >"jim beam" wrote:

>
>> > almost certainly relay. honda pumps are /very/ reliable and rarely
>> > fail, even at extraordinary mileage.
>> >

>>
>> The ones I've heard of fail are the ones where the owner keeps the
>> tank near-empty all the time, and puts just enough in to keep the
>> low-fuel light off.

>
> I believe the problem most likely lies on the driver. Even with the
> low light, the pump still circulates, in effect it still runs cool.



Technically yes. But should you go uphill, downhill, go over railroad
tracks, swerve around the town drunk, the pump may momentarily run dry, and
thus induce stress upon itself.


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Old 19 Aug 2006, 01:39 am
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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message news:Xns9823E4A7A3948tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Burt" <burtsquareman@none.com> wrote in
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> >> >"jim beam" wrote:


> >> > almost certainly relay. honda pumps are /very/ reliable and rarely
> >> > fail, even at extraordinary mileage.
> >> >
> >>
> >> The ones I've heard of fail are the ones where the owner keeps the
> >> tank near-empty all the time, and puts just enough in to keep the
> >> low-fuel light off.

> >
> > I believe the problem most likely lies on the driver. Even with the
> > low light, the pump still circulates, in effect it still runs cool.

>
>
> Technically yes. But should you go uphill, downhill, go over railroad
> tracks, swerve around the town drunk, the pump may momentarily run dry, and
> thus induce stress upon itself.


Strangely, when the low light comes on I tend to go uphill, downhill, go over
railroad tracks, swerve around the town drunk, waiting for the dooms day
but it hasn't come. Many people who have a failed pump don't open them
to see whether the brushes or the impeller is the problem. Pumps are sealed.

My best guess is that the gas gets more concentrated of the "bad stuff" when it
runs low. The concentration eats up the brushes at a faster rate. My tank is
super clean and rust free, therefore no problems.







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