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Old 07 Aug 2006, 03:52 pm
ueberbill@gmail.com
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Default Honda Clutch Kit

Clutch is going to need replacing on my 86 Prelude 2.0si- anybody know
the best place to get the full kit for a clutch replacement?

Thanks,
Bill

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Old 07 Aug 2006, 11:33 pm
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I am not sure about the "best" place but am looking forward
to others' input on this. In particular, I want to know if
OEM is strongly advocated.

For your reference: OEM sources for the clutch disc and
release bearing:
www.slhonda.com
www.hondaautomotiveparts.com



<ueberbill@gmail.com> wrote
> Clutch is going to need replacing on my 86 Prelude 2.0si-
> anybody know
> the best place to get the full kit for a clutch
> replacement?



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Old 08 Aug 2006, 07:56 am
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"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>I am not sure about the "best" place but am looking forward to others'
>input on this. In particular, I want to know if OEM is strongly advocated.
>

I hadn't thought about that. Maybe there isn't much difference, but deep
inside a clutch isn't the place you'd want substandard parts.

Anybody have experience with that?

Mike


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Old 08 Aug 2006, 08:43 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>>I am not sure about the "best" place but am looking
>>forward to others' input on this. In particular, I want to
>>know if OEM is strongly advocated.
>>

> I hadn't thought about that. Maybe there isn't much
> difference, but deep inside a clutch isn't the place you'd
> want substandard parts.


I just searched the group's archives and Babcox.com's
magazines to see what they say. The archives don't reveal
strong feelings on this, from what I saw. OTOH, it seems the
topic does not come up here often. Larry Carley (the
automotive technician turned tech writer) seems to lean
towards OEM but is open to remanned parts. (Not sure which
parts he says can be purchased remanned. Flywheel with a cut
taken off the surface? Pressure plate rebuild?)

For the archives, since I'm sure you know the following,
Michael: I see the Honda clutch kits online, presumably so
far all aftermarket, contain the release bearing, pilot
bearing (forgot that), disc, an alignment tool, but also a
new pressure plate (oops on me). Carley says for low mileage
vehicles, sometimes the old pressure plate can be reused.
Dunno how prudent that is. The Car Talk guys (Tom and Ray)
note that a clutch's life depends largely on how many times
a car is started from stop, so a lot of stop and go driving
translates to a high wear rate on clutches. Makes sense.

Internet sources suggest the OEM manufacturer for Honda
clutches is Exedy. I think I'll go looking for some open
trannies next time I'm at the junkyard and look for
manufacturer info stamped on the disc, etc.


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Old 08 Aug 2006, 10:13 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
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> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
> newsuUBg.1015$Sn3.393@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>I am not sure about the "best" place but am looking forward to others'
>>input on this. In particular, I want to know if OEM is strongly
>>advocated.
>>

> I hadn't thought about that. Maybe there isn't much difference, but
> deep inside a clutch isn't the place you'd want substandard parts.
>
> Anybody have experience with that?
>
> Mike
>
>
>


Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch assemblies be
better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)

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Old 08 Aug 2006, 10:18 am
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"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
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> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>>>I am not sure about the "best" place but am looking
>>>forward to others' input on this. In particular, I want to
>>>know if OEM is strongly advocated.
>>>

>> I hadn't thought about that. Maybe there isn't much
>> difference, but deep inside a clutch isn't the place you'd
>> want substandard parts.

>
> I just searched the group's archives and Babcox.com's
> magazines to see what they say. The archives don't reveal
> strong feelings on this, from what I saw. OTOH, it seems the
> topic does not come up here often. Larry Carley (the
> automotive technician turned tech writer) seems to lean
> towards OEM but is open to remanned parts. (Not sure which
> parts he says can be purchased remanned. Flywheel with a cut
> taken off the surface? Pressure plate rebuild?)
>
> For the archives, since I'm sure you know the following,
> Michael: I see the Honda clutch kits online, presumably so
> far all aftermarket, contain the release bearing, pilot
> bearing (forgot that), disc, an alignment tool, but also a
> new pressure plate (oops on me). Carley says for low mileage
> vehicles, sometimes the old pressure plate can be reused.
> Dunno how prudent that is.


If you're replacing a worn clutch,theres TWO sides to it,and one side rubs
up against the clutch pressure plate! It also beats having to go BACK in
there if.... ;-)


> The Car Talk guys (Tom and Ray)
> note that a clutch's life depends largely on how many times
> a car is started from stop, so a lot of stop and go driving
> translates to a high wear rate on clutches. Makes sense.
>
> Internet sources suggest the OEM manufacturer for Honda
> clutches is Exedy. I think I'll go looking for some open
> trannies next time I'm at the junkyard and look for
> manufacturer info stamped on the disc, etc.
>
>
>


OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no surprises.No "awshits".

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Old 08 Aug 2006, 10:49 am
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> I see the Honda clutch kits online, presumably so
>> far all aftermarket, contain the release bearing, pilot
>> bearing (forgot that), disc, an alignment tool, but also
>> a
>> new pressure plate (oops on me). Carley says for low
>> mileage
>> vehicles, sometimes the old pressure plate can be reused.
>> Dunno how prudent that is.

>
> If you're replacing a worn clutch,theres TWO sides to
> it,and one side rubs
> up against the clutch pressure plate!


Well sure, but I was thinking the disc is made up of
"wearable" material, whereas the flywheel and pressure
plates are harder. Kinda like brake pads vs. rotors.

But rotors do get replaced/resurfaced.

My misconception. If it's S.O.P. to replace the pressure
plate, I will, some several years down the road when my 91
Civic's clutch actually starts slipping.

> It also beats having to go BACK in
> there if.... ;-)


Yessir. :-)

> OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no
> surprises.No "awshits".


Yes, that's making sense to me.

What is surprising to me, in my little clutch exploration of
the past month or so, is that it's the parts that are much
of the cost of a clutch replacement, especially if OEM parts
are used. Labor really does not seem too intense for someone
who has done a clutch job or two on a Honda. I oughta look
up the hours on Alldata while I still have free access.


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Old 08 Aug 2006, 07:40 pm
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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>
> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch assemblies be
> better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>
> --
> Jim Yanik


Makes sense to me. Reading one of your other posts in this thread (about
fit) I think you're on to something. Even a bit of hanging up in the release
can make a clutch drag.

Mike


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Old 08 Aug 2006, 08:01 pm
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"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
> Well sure, but I was thinking the disc is made up of
> "wearable" material, whereas the flywheel and pressure
> plates are harder. Kinda like brake pads vs. rotors.
>
> But rotors do get replaced/resurfaced.




Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their "stepped"
surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of every post-1990
model I've seen so far.




>
> My misconception. If it's S.O.P. to replace the pressure
> plate, I will, some several years down the road when my 91
> Civic's clutch actually starts slipping.




The pressure plate has many other points of wear and failure than just the
friction surface. If you've got a few miles on the car, it does not pay to
skimp on the pressure plate.



>
>> It also beats having to go BACK in
>> there if.... ;-)

>
> Yessir. :-)
>
>> OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no
>> surprises.No "awshits".

>
> Yes, that's making sense to me.




Once is enough when it's your daily driver. I went OEM for peace-of mind.



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Old 08 Aug 2006, 08:02 pm
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
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> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84.. .
>>
>> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch
>> assemblies be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>>

>
> Makes sense to me. Reading one of your other posts in this thread
> (about fit) I think you're on to something. Even a bit of hanging up
> in the release can make a clutch drag.
>



Yep.

See here for my experience:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/clutch/index.html






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