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Old 04 Aug 2006, 02:42 pm
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Default parking brake bypasses civic secure key system?

Interest article in current Wired magazine alleges than recent Honda
Civics
bypass the RFID "secure keys" by jiggling the parking brake in a
specific way.
Is this an urban myth or fact?

http://wired.com/wired/archive/14.08/carkey.html

Scary if true.

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Old 04 Aug 2006, 05:30 pm
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rick++ wrote:
> Interest article in current Wired magazine alleges than recent Honda
> Civics
> bypass the RFID "secure keys" by jiggling the parking brake in a
> specific way.
> Is this an urban myth or fact?


Wow, crazy story. I believe that it's true. I found this guide (ilco is
a legitimate key company):

http://www.kaba-ilco.com/key_systems...5B09-05%5D.pdf

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Old 05 Aug 2006, 08:16 am
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"Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com> wrote in message
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> rick++ wrote:
>> Interest article in current Wired magazine alleges than recent Honda
>> Civics
>> bypass the RFID "secure keys" by jiggling the parking brake in a
>> specific way.
>> Is this an urban myth or fact?

>
> Wow, crazy story. I believe that it's true. I found this guide (ilco is
> a legitimate key company):
>
> http://www.kaba-ilco.com/key_systems...5B09-05%5D.pdf
>

I see it requires obtaining a Brake Code from Honda to make it work though.
Sounds very much like the hoops you would jump through to get the radio
code. It also appears the same applies to pretty much every make of car and
within Honda it isn't specific to the Civic, only the "chicken dance" is
different. At any rate, there are much easier ways of stealing a car.

Great link.

Mike


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Old 05 Aug 2006, 04:44 pm
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> I see it requires obtaining a Brake Code from Honda to make it work though.


Article says the code can be derived from the VIN.
Time get paranoid :-)

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Old 05 Aug 2006, 05:35 pm
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rick++ wrote:
>>I see it requires obtaining a Brake Code from Honda to make it work though.

>
>
> Article says the code can be derived from the VIN.
> Time get paranoid :-)


Time to go old-school and add you own hidden ignition-kill switch!
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Old 06 Aug 2006, 12:07 am
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"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I see it requires obtaining a Brake Code from Honda to make it work
>> though.

>
> Article says the code can be derived from the VIN.
> Time get paranoid :-)
>

Not derived by the customer - the VIN is needed to access the code through
manufacturer's support system, as described in Bucky's excellent link. The
very same process would be used to get an actual working copy of a key for
the vehicle; see http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/vin.asp for the skinny
on that route. Even with the code, a correct "dumb" key is required, so a
thief would find this a very cumbersome and high exposure route to stealing
a car. If you can get a working key the same way, why would anybody bother
with the less effective approach?

Don't lose sleep over this one. 'Wired' has always favored sensation over
enlightenment, and they continue the practice here.

Mike


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Old 06 Aug 2006, 01:04 am
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Default Re: parking brake bypasses civic secure key system?

Michael Pardee wrote:
> At any rate, there are much easier ways of stealing a car.


But not as cool as doing a cheat code with the parking brake! =)

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