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Old 03 Aug 2006, 02:25 pm
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Default '99 Odyssey Won't Crank Over - Intermittent

A few days ago, the van would not crank over when trying to start. No
sound from the starter or relay either. Had it towed to a Honda repair
shop and everything checked out OK - battery, connections, alternator,
starter, etc... Also (of course) the van started right up for them.
Now this has happened a couple more times, so it's very intermittent.
It's in the repair shop again, but I suspect they will not find any
problems again due to the intermittent nature. From the first time it
was in the shop, they suggested that maybe it was the starter, but
wanted $400 plus to replace it. I have found referbs for about $140,
and new ones for about $250. Any ideas what else it might be? How
hard is it to replace the starter?

Thanks,
Mike

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Old 03 Aug 2006, 05:56 pm
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"Merp" <putler@cox.net> wrote in
news:1154633121.436328.104420@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:

> A few days ago, the van would not crank over when trying to start. No
> sound from the starter or relay either. Had it towed to a Honda repair
> shop and everything checked out OK - battery, connections, alternator,
> starter, etc... Also (of course) the van started right up for them.
> Now this has happened a couple more times, so it's very intermittent.
> It's in the repair shop again, but I suspect they will not find any
> problems again due to the intermittent nature. From the first time it
> was in the shop, they suggested that maybe it was the starter, but
> wanted $400 plus to replace it. I have found referbs for about $140,
> and new ones for about $250. Any ideas what else it might be? How
> hard is it to replace the starter?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>


check this site out first;
http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html

It cost me $30 PPD to rebuild my starter's solenoid.
The hard part was getting the lower starter bolt loose in such tight
quarters.(Only two bolts hold the starter to the engine.)

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Old 03 Aug 2006, 10:21 pm
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Default Re: '99 Odyssey Won't Crank Over - Intermittent

Merp wrote:
>
> A few days ago, the van would not crank over when trying to start. No
> sound from the starter or relay either. Had it towed to a Honda repair
> shop and everything checked out OK - battery, connections, alternator,
> starter, etc... Also (of course) the van started right up for them.
> Now this has happened a couple more times, so it's very intermittent.
> It's in the repair shop again, but I suspect they will not find any
> problems again due to the intermittent nature. From the first time it
> was in the shop, they suggested that maybe it was the starter, but
> wanted $400 plus to replace it. I have found referbs for about $140,
> and new ones for about $250. Any ideas what else it might be? How
> hard is it to replace the starter?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike


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If there's absolutely no click, did you try moving the shifter to
NEUTRAL, as mentioned in the owner's manual? (surely the dealership
already told you to try that before TOWING). Even the tow truck operator
should have tried it.

Read this TSB: It also applies to just about every Honda ever built.

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/civic/x94-010e.pdf

I just did the adjustment on my '97 CR-V and it helped a lot.

'Curly'
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Old 04 Aug 2006, 07:26 am
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Default Re: '99 Odyssey Won't Crank Over - Intermittent

Did you also observe dash lights? The more you observe and try when failing
the better chance you have of finding the problem. Check with dealer on
recall on ignition switch problem. Visit www.odyclub.com and do some
searches on the problem.


"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> Merp wrote:
>>
>> A few days ago, the van would not crank over when trying to start. No
>> sound from the starter or relay either. Had it towed to a Honda repair
>> shop and everything checked out OK - battery, connections, alternator,
>> starter, etc... Also (of course) the van started right up for them.
>> Now this has happened a couple more times, so it's very intermittent.
>> It's in the repair shop again, but I suspect they will not find any
>> problems again due to the intermittent nature. From the first time it
>> was in the shop, they suggested that maybe it was the starter, but
>> wanted $400 plus to replace it. I have found referbs for about $140,
>> and new ones for about $250. Any ideas what else it might be? How
>> hard is it to replace the starter?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike

>
> --------------------------------------
>
> If there's absolutely no click, did you try moving the shifter to
> NEUTRAL, as mentioned in the owner's manual? (surely the dealership
> already told you to try that before TOWING). Even the tow truck operator
> should have tried it.
>
> Read this TSB: It also applies to just about every Honda ever built.
>
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/civic/x94-010e.pdf
>
> I just did the adjustment on my '97 CR-V and it helped a lot.
>
> 'Curly'



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Old 04 Aug 2006, 08:24 am
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In article <1154633121.436328.104420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>,
"Merp" <putler@cox.net> wrote:

> A few days ago, the van would not crank over when trying to start. No
> sound from the starter or relay either. Had it towed to a Honda repair
> shop and everything checked out OK - battery, connections, alternator,
> starter, etc... Also (of course) the van started right up for them.
> Now this has happened a couple more times, so it's very intermittent.
> It's in the repair shop again, but I suspect they will not find any
> problems again due to the intermittent nature. From the first time it
> was in the shop, they suggested that maybe it was the starter, but
> wanted $400 plus to replace it. I have found referbs for about $140,
> and new ones for about $250. Any ideas what else it might be?


There are several interlocks that prevent the ignition or starter
circuits from becoming live under certain conditions, and those should
be checked out first.

The neutral safety switch on the transmission is the first and easiest
to check. The car will start in park or neutral. If park doesn't work,
move it to neutral and try. Maybe the switch at the park setting isn't
working.

Also a culprit on an 8 year old car could be the ignition switch itself,
especially if you have a bunch of keys on your key ring.

They didn't check either of those things?

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Old 04 Aug 2006, 01:01 pm
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All,

Thanks for the replies. Just got word back from the repair shop, and
the problem is no longer intermittent. It's the solenoid. I've
tried google to a source a new one, but all I'm getting is a part
number for the Mitsuba solenoid (66-8504). Any ideas where to purchase
just the solenoid?

I've also found a new starter for $167. If I can't find the
solenoid soon, I'm just replacing the whole thing.

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Old 04 Aug 2006, 08:21 pm
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"Merp" <putler@cox.net> wrote in
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> All,
>
> Thanks for the replies. Just got word back from the repair shop, and
> the problem is no longer intermittent. It's the solenoid. I've
> tried google to a source a new one, but all I'm getting is a part
> number for the Mitsuba solenoid (66-8504). Any ideas where to purchase
> just the solenoid?
>
> I've also found a new starter for $167. If I can't find the
> solenoid soon, I'm just replacing the whole thing.
>


Did you read my last post?

http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/


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Old 04 Aug 2006, 08:57 pm
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Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
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> "Merp" <putler@cox.net> wrote in
> news:1154714516.815745.124100@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Thanks for the replies. Just got word back from the repair shop, and
>> the problem is no longer intermittent. It's the solenoid. I've
>> tried google to a source a new one, but all I'm getting is a part
>> number for the Mitsuba solenoid (66-8504). Any ideas where to purchase
>> just the solenoid?
>>
>> I've also found a new starter for $167. If I can't find the
>> solenoid soon, I'm just replacing the whole thing.
>>

>
> Did you read my last post?
>
> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/



That site only covers Denso, does it not?


>
>



Mitsuba solenoids going bad? I always thought the big Honda starter problem
was the contacts on Denso starters.

A replacement solenoid assembly may be purchased from a local rebuild shop,
but you'll have to install it yourself.

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Old 05 Aug 2006, 01:35 pm
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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9815DF8712B4Etegger@207.14.116.130:

> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9815D9330FAD3jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.83:
>
>> "Merp" <putler@cox.net> wrote in
>> news:1154714516.815745.124100@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. Just got word back from the repair shop,
>>> and the problem is no longer intermittent. It's the solenoid. I've
>>> tried google to a source a new one, but all I'm getting is a part
>>> number for the Mitsuba solenoid (66-8504). Any ideas where to
>>> purchase just the solenoid?
>>>
>>> I've also found a new starter for $167. If I can't find the
>>> solenoid soon, I'm just replacing the whole thing.
>>>

>>
>> Did you read my last post?
>>
>> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/

>
>
> That site only covers Denso, does it not?
>
>
>>
>>

>
>
> Mitsuba solenoids going bad? I always thought the big Honda starter
> problem was the contacts on Denso starters.
>
> A replacement solenoid assembly may be purchased from a local rebuild
> shop, but you'll have to install it yourself.
>


The original link I provided was for Denso,but IIRC,there were other brands
listed too.

I just checked,and the home page lists "starter parts","solenoid
parts","alternator parts",and whole units.

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