Honda Car Forum

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
>>> A factor often overlooked is engine health. If the
>>> injectors are dirty or the ignition needs tune-up the
>>> clutch release can often be the first to suffer. Try a
>>> bottle of injector cleaner (most people favor Techron,
>>
>> Michael, can you explain this? Do you mean the stuttering
>> (or whatever irregular gas/air flow/spark at the
>> cylinders) sort of fools the driver into thinking it's a
>> shift problem? E.g. As the gas pedal is pressed during up
>> shifting, engine RPM does not change the way it should,
>> so the shifting is not all that smooth?
>>
> Yes - the engine bogs down easily and becomes ragged. I
> think it may go into a subtle "pilot induced oscillation"
> where the engine starts to rev and the driver's foot lets
> out a bit more, only to put more load on the engine than
> it can handle. I could be wrong about that.
for brevity snipped the usual good anecdotes; please look
back

I buy it. I also googled and this came up on at least one
least web site, too.
See http://www.knight-rider.org/mn-dsm/tips/Spark.html

JT, I concur.

It's a very good point, IMO. Plus, one is not throwing money
away by doing a tuneup, either.

> Anyway, in the spirit of "make everything right first,
> then troubleshoot" I like to rule out tune-up issues.

I agree this is a proper troubleshooting approach.

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:44CC3412.F913D73@interbaun.com...
> Me wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I have a '97 Civic that I bought recently. It has a 5 spd tranny. If I
>> am
>> reeaally careful letting the clutch out, I can make it shift smoothly.
>> Shifting like I have any other car I've driven tends to be kind of rough
>> and
>> jerky. It has 100K miles on it. After I bought it, I changed the manual
>> tranny fluid with the Honda fluid and noticed a big difference although
>> it
>> is still sensitive. I think that this was the first time that it had
>> been
>> changed. Would it be worth changing again to flush out the rest of the
>> crap
>> that may be in it? Are there any adjustments I can make to the clutch?
>> Lastly, any other thoughts on why this is? Other than that and a
>> vibration
>> that I think comes from a heat shield when cold, it is a great car.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>
>
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>
> Bleeding the brake fluid in the hydraulic system that moves the clutch
> might make it work closer to the 'design'. It should have been done the
> last time the brakes were bled, but nobody asks / nobody tells the
> mechanic.
>
> 'Curly'

Curly,
That did the trick. Much better now. Thanks!
Bob

Me wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> > Bleeding the brake fluid in the hydraulic system that moves the clutch
> > might make it work closer to the 'design'. It should have been done the
> > last time the brakes were bled, but nobody asks / nobody tells the
> > mechanic.
> >
> > 'Curly'
>
> Curly,
> That did the trick. Much better now. Thanks!
> Bob


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See, I can guess them even when it's not Psychic Wednesday !!!

I'm glad for you. A crappy clutch would be hard to live with.

'Curly'