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Old 29 Jul 2006, 12:32 am
Russell Lombardo
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Default Civic Hybrid Mileage

We are considering the new Civic Hybrid and are interested in the the
real-world mileage. The numbers seem pretty good, but are they realistic?

Any owners input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

- Russ


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Old 29 Jul 2006, 01:27 pm
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AFter 8,000 miles and 2 years, we get 34 winter, 31 summer in town,
(air conditioner), 40 on the road. Extremely disappointed.







On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:32:44 -0700, Russell Lombardo
<rlombardo@cox.net> wrote:

>We are considering the new Civic Hybrid and are interested in the the
>real-world mileage. The numbers seem pretty good, but are they realistic?
>
>Any owners input would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
> - Russ
>

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Old 29 Jul 2006, 02:13 pm
Grumpy AuContraire
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Default Re: Civic Hybrid Mileage

Hybrids are hype and bluster and little substance.

My old '83 Civic is getting 35 in town and around 45 mpg on the
highway... Low insurance, no payments and since it has faded paint, it
ain't high on the "to steal" list.

Eventually, an electric will come along that will have a range of over
400 miles on a single one hour charge. When that happens, the gasoline
powered cars will go into a steep decline...

JT




gerald musselman wrote:
>
> AFter 8,000 miles and 2 years, we get 34 winter, 31 summer in town,
> (air conditioner), 40 on the road. Extremely disappointed.
>
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:32:44 -0700, Russell Lombardo
> <rlombardo@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >We are considering the new Civic Hybrid and are interested in the the
> >real-world mileage. The numbers seem pretty good, but are they realistic?
> >
> >Any owners input would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> > - Russ
> >

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Old 29 Jul 2006, 02:43 pm
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Default Re: Civic Hybrid Mileage

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
news:44CBB4CE.110FE06C@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
> Hybrids are hype and bluster and little substance.
>
> My old '83 Civic is getting 35 in town and around 45 mpg on the
> highway... Low insurance, no payments and since it has faded paint, it
> ain't high on the "to steal" list.
>


OTOH, our Toyota hybrid gets mid-40s around town with my lead-footed wife
using the A/C heavily. It gets 45-55 on the highway, depending on the load
and speed. If we got 30s around town I would start troubleshooting.
Something would have to be very wrong to do that badly.

Look for better performance (both acceleration and economy) from hybrids in
the future. The basic advantage, running the engine inefficiently less of
the time, has a lot of room for improvement.

Mike


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Old 29 Jul 2006, 03:43 pm
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In article <l0anc2t24bq96uqh6g5iefnom5sfpu0cdu@4ax.com>,
gerald musselman <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:

> AFter 8,000 miles and 2 years, we get 34 winter, 31 summer in town,
> (air conditioner), 40 on the road. Extremely disappointed.


What were you expecting?

What did Honda say the mileage would be?

Shoot, I get 24 in town and 28 on the highway in my 94 Lexus with 166K
miles on the clock.

I don't get those that buy hybrids. I really don't.

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Old 29 Jul 2006, 06:48 pm
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <l0anc2t24bq96uqh6g5iefnom5sfpu0cdu@4ax.com>,
> gerald musselman <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > AFter 8,000 miles and 2 years, we get 34 winter, 31 summer in town,
> > (air conditioner), 40 on the road. Extremely disappointed.

>
> What were you expecting?
>
> What did Honda say the mileage would be?
>
> Shoot, I get 24 in town and 28 on the highway in my 94 Lexus with 166K
> miles on the clock.
>
> I don't get those that buy hybrids. I really don't.


Don't dispair. Give it some time. They will be where the pogo whips
are.

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Old 29 Jul 2006, 06:58 pm
Russell Lombardo
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Default Re: Civic Hybrid Mileage

Thanks for the comments. We may just save some money and purchase a regular
Civic. I think the mileage is mid-30s on that one.

Thanks again,

- Russ in Santa Barbara

On 07/29/2006 4:48 PM, in article
1154216922.676263.243230@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups. com, "Body Roll"
<aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article <l0anc2t24bq96uqh6g5iefnom5sfpu0cdu@4ax.com>,
>> gerald musselman <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> AFter 8,000 miles and 2 years, we get 34 winter, 31 summer in town,
>>> (air conditioner), 40 on the road. Extremely disappointed.

>>
>> What were you expecting?
>>
>> What did Honda say the mileage would be?
>>
>> Shoot, I get 24 in town and 28 on the highway in my 94 Lexus with 166K
>> miles on the clock.
>>
>> I don't get those that buy hybrids. I really don't.

>
> Don't dispair. Give it some time. They will be where the pogo whips
> are.
>


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Old 29 Jul 2006, 08:15 pm
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Russell Lombardo <rlombardo@cox.net> wrote in
news:C0F0410C.18E5D%rlombardo@cox.net:

> We are considering the new Civic Hybrid and are interested in the the
> real-world mileage. The numbers seem pretty good, but are they
> realistic?
>
> Any owners input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Russ
>
>


46-48 mpg overall in a mixed small-town/rural/interstate highway setting.
No complaints with that from me.

Richard
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Old 29 Jul 2006, 09:56 pm
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
>
> In article <l0anc2t24bq96uqh6g5iefnom5sfpu0cdu@4ax.com>,
> gerald musselman <x33y55z@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > AFter 8,000 miles and 2 years, we get 34 winter, 31 summer in town,
> > (air conditioner), 40 on the road. Extremely disappointed.

>
> What were you expecting?
>
> What did Honda say the mileage would be?
>
> Shoot, I get 24 in town and 28 on the highway in my 94 Lexus with 166K
> miles on the clock.
>
> I don't get those that buy hybrids. I really don't.




....and you can add the "American way" to plunge into debt to but the
latest econobox for "inflated" mileage figures and high payments.

<g>

JT

(No payments, no big worries, and a minimum of dumbed down gadgets..)
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 01:43 am
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"Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>> I don't get those that buy hybrids. I really don't.

>
> Don't dispair. Give it some time. They will be where the pogo whips
> are.
>

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and Honda's current offerings
tend to support your view.

I have been excited about hybrids since I heard of the concept 2 decades
ago. They are the solution to the most vexing engineering problem in
conventional power trains: efficient throttling. After all, using 10 or 20
horsepower from a 200 hp engine on a continuing basis is a farce. My own
prediction is that hybrids will be at least as pervasive in 20 years as fuel
injection is now compared to the much simpler carburetion. The potential
benefits of the change are vastly greater for hybridization than they were
for electronic fuel injection. Honda's IMA theoretically has the capability,
but the degree of hybridization the Civic uses is very small indeed. The
Accord "hybrid" is more ridiculous.

Mike


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