Honda Car Forum

1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise for about
3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home. It is very quiet.
I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors are mirrors?? almost like
an electrical fule pump coming on??? It appears this is killing the
battery over a 2 year period.

I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested it on a
charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it sometimes just
clicks. The second or third try kicks over. Sometimes it starts
normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries. Daytime temps are about 92 F in
shade.

I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a solenoid on the
starter? There was a recall on the ignition by the key and the dealer
supposedly replaced it.

Any ideas?

Fabiorossi5@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
> 1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise for about
> 3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home. It is very quiet.
> I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors are mirrors?? almost like
> an electrical fule pump coming on??? It appears this is killing the
> battery over a 2 year period.
>
> I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested it on a
> charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it sometimes just
> clicks. The second or third try kicks over. Sometimes it starts
> normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries. Daytime temps are about 92 F in
> shade.
>
> I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a solenoid on the
> starter? There was a recall on the ignition by the key and the dealer
> supposedly replaced it.
>
> Any ideas?

-------------------------------------------

You are hearing the ABS charging up. I think it's mentioned in your
owner's manual. Clean and tighten BOTH ends of BOTH battery cables. They
aren't able to carry current because something is loose.

Heat is hard of batteries too.

'Curly'

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
news:44CAE106.EFB9CD13@interbaun.com:

> Fabiorossi5@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>> 1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise for about
>> 3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home. It is very quiet.
>> I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors are mirrors?? almost like
>> an electrical fule pump coming on??? It appears this is killing the
>> battery over a 2 year period.
>>
>> I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested it on a
>> charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it sometimes just
>> clicks. The second or third try kicks over. Sometimes it starts
>> normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries. Daytime temps are about 92 F in
>> shade.
>>
>> I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a solenoid on the
>> starter? There was a recall on the ignition by the key and the dealer
>> supposedly replaced it.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> You are hearing the ABS charging up. I think it's mentioned in your
> owner's manual. Clean and tighten BOTH ends of BOTH battery cables. They
> aren't able to carry current because something is loose.
>
> Heat is hard of batteries too.
>
> 'Curly'

Honda starters also have solenoid contact problems,some solenoids can be
replaced,others need the contacts and plunger replaced,or a rebuilt starter
installed.

http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:16:06 -0600, "'Curly Q. Links'"
<motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:

>Fabiorossi5@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>> 1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise for about
>> 3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home. It is very quiet.
>> I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors are mirrors?? almost like
>> an electrical fule pump coming on??? It appears this is killing the
>> battery over a 2 year period.
>>
>> I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested it on a
>> charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it sometimes just
>> clicks. The second or third try kicks over. Sometimes it starts
>> normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries. Daytime temps are about 92 F in
>> shade.
>>
>> I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a solenoid on the
>> starter? There was a recall on the ignition by the key and the dealer
>> supposedly replaced it.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>-------------------------------------------
>
>You are hearing the ABS charging up. I think it's mentioned in your
>owner's manual. Clean and tighten BOTH ends of BOTH battery cables. They
>aren't able to carry current because something is loose.
>
>Heat is hard of batteries too.
>
>'Curly'

I wouldn't rule out a failing starter. Mine failed with similar
symptoms - sometimes taking two or three clicks before it would crank.
Problem got gradually more frequent and more severe. New starter
fixed it for good.

You should check connection to battery, starter and ground to make
sure they are clean and secure.

Jim Yanik wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> news:44CAE106.EFB9CD13@interbaun.com:
>
> > Fabiorossi5@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>
> >> 1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise for about
> >> 3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home. It is very quiet.
> >> I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors are mirrors?? almost like
> >> an electrical fule pump coming on??? It appears this is killing the
> >> battery over a 2 year period.
> >>
> >> I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested it on a
> >> charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it sometimes just
> >> clicks. The second or third try kicks over. Sometimes it starts
> >> normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries. Daytime temps are about 92 F in
> >> shade.
> >>
> >> I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a solenoid on the
> >> starter? There was a recall on the ignition by the key and the dealer
> >> supposedly replaced it.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > You are hearing the ABS charging up. I think it's mentioned in your
> > owner's manual. Clean and tighten BOTH ends of BOTH battery cables. They
> > aren't able to carry current because something is loose.
> >
> > Heat is hard of batteries too.
> >
> > 'Curly'
>
> Honda starters also have solenoid contact problems,some solenoids can be
> replaced,others need the contacts and plunger replaced,or a rebuilt starter
> installed.
>
> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
>


I had such a problem with a '76 Honda Civic. My cure was to wack it
(starter) with a jack handle and this worked for nearly a year after
which I had it rebuilt..

JT

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:16:06 -0600, "'Curly Q. Links'"
> <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:
>
> >Fabiorossi5@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>
> >> 1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise for about
> >> 3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home. It is very quiet.
> >> I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors are mirrors?? almost like
> >> an electrical fule pump coming on??? It appears this is killing the
> >> battery over a 2 year period.
> >>
> >> I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested it on a
> >> charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it sometimes just
> >> clicks. The second or third try kicks over. Sometimes it starts
> >> normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries. Daytime temps are about 92 F in
> >> shade.
> >>
> >> I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a solenoid on the
> >> starter? There was a recall on the ignition by the key and the dealer
> >> supposedly replaced it.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >You are hearing the ABS charging up. I think it's mentioned in your
> >owner's manual. Clean and tighten BOTH ends of BOTH battery cables. They
> >aren't able to carry current because something is loose.
> >
> >Heat is hard of batteries too.
> >
> >'Curly'
>
> I wouldn't rule out a failing starter. Mine failed with similar
> symptoms - sometimes taking two or three clicks before it would crank.
> Problem got gradually more frequent and more severe. New starter
> fixed it for good.
>
> You should check connection to battery, starter and ground to make
> sure they are clean and secure.

I clean the battery contacts, they were ticght and spray WD-40 on the
contacts. The ground to the body had a little white residue. The
WD-40 seemed to do the trick at first. Later in the day after 4 or 5
starts it seemed like we were back to trouble starting. I think the
starter may be going.

Anyone know how hard it is to swap it out on an Accord?

Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
news:44CBB5B1.70D940B0@GrumpyvilleNOT.com:

>
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>> news:44CAE106.EFB9CD13@interbaun.com:
>>
>> > Fabiorossi5@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise for
>> >> about 3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home. It is
>> >> very quiet. I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors are
>> >> mirrors?? almost like an electrical fule pump coming on??? It
>> >> appears this is killing the battery over a 2 year period.
>> >>
>> >> I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested it
>> >> on a charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it sometimes
>> >> just clicks. The second or third try kicks over. Sometimes it
>> >> starts normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries. Daytime temps are
>> >> about 92 F in shade.
>> >>
>> >> I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a solenoid
>> >> on the starter? There was a recall on the ignition by the key and
>> >> the dealer supposedly replaced it.
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > You are hearing the ABS charging up. I think it's mentioned in your
>> > owner's manual. Clean and tighten BOTH ends of BOTH battery cables.
>> > They aren't able to carry current because something is loose.
>> >
>> > Heat is hard of batteries too.
>> >
>> > 'Curly'
>>
>> Honda starters also have solenoid contact problems,some solenoids can
>> be replaced,others need the contacts and plunger replaced,or a
>> rebuilt starter installed.
>>
>> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>>
>
>
> I had such a problem with a '76 Honda Civic. My cure was to wack it
> (starter) with a jack handle and this worked for nearly a year after
> which I had it rebuilt..
>
> JT
>

On my 94 Integra,I bought the parts for $30 PPD,and replaced the contacts
and plunger myself.
The hardest part was getting out the lower starter bolt.(a LONG one,and
frozen in)

Doing the solenoid was easy.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik wrote:
>
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
> news:44CBB5B1.70D940B0@GrumpyvilleNOT.com:
>
> >
> >
> > Jim Yanik wrote:
> >>
> >> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> >> news:44CAE106.EFB9CD13@interbaun.com:
> >>
> >> > Fabiorossi5@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise for
> >> >> about 3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home. It is
> >> >> very quiet. I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors are
> >> >> mirrors?? almost like an electrical fule pump coming on??? It
> >> >> appears this is killing the battery over a 2 year period.
> >> >>
> >> >> I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested it
> >> >> on a charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it sometimes
> >> >> just clicks. The second or third try kicks over. Sometimes it
> >> >> starts normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries. Daytime temps are
> >> >> about 92 F in shade.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a solenoid
> >> >> on the starter? There was a recall on the ignition by the key and
> >> >> the dealer supposedly replaced it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> > -------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > You are hearing the ABS charging up. I think it's mentioned in your
> >> > owner's manual. Clean and tighten BOTH ends of BOTH battery cables.
> >> > They aren't able to carry current because something is loose.
> >> >
> >> > Heat is hard of batteries too.
> >> >
> >> > 'Curly'
> >>
> >> Honda starters also have solenoid contact problems,some solenoids can
> >> be replaced,others need the contacts and plunger replaced,or a
> >> rebuilt starter installed.
> >>
> >> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim Yanik
> >>
> >
> >
> > I had such a problem with a '76 Honda Civic. My cure was to wack it
> > (starter) with a jack handle and this worked for nearly a year after
> > which I had it rebuilt..
> >
> > JT
> >
>
> On my 94 Integra,I bought the parts for $30 PPD,and replaced the contacts
> and plunger myself.
> The hardest part was getting out the lower starter bolt.(a LONG one,and
> frozen in)
>
> Doing the solenoid was easy.
>
>


One of the great benefits of living in Central Texas is that fifty year
old bolts/nuts still turn...

JT

(Who will never live in the rust belt again...)

Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
news:44CC84B1.8B13AAEC@GrumpyvilleNOT.com:

>
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
>> news:44CBB5B1.70D940B0@GrumpyvilleNOT.com:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Jim Yanik wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>> >> news:44CAE106.EFB9CD13@interbaun.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Fabiorossi5@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1999 LX. I hear every ten minutes a weird little motor noise
>> >> >> for about 3 seconds when it is park in the driveway at home.
>> >> >> It is very quiet. I cannot tell what it is. Only real motors
>> >> >> are mirrors?? almost like an electrical fule pump coming on???
>> >> >> It appears this is killing the battery over a 2 year period.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I put in a new Interstate battery about 4 months ago. I tested
>> >> >> it on a charger and it looks okay. When I go to start it
>> >> >> sometimes just clicks. The second or third try kicks over.
>> >> >> Sometimes it starts normally. Sometimes it takes 4 tries.
>> >> >> Daytime temps are about 92 F in shade.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am wondering if the starter is going or if there is a
>> >> >> solenoid on the starter? There was a recall on the ignition by
>> >> >> the key and the dealer supposedly replaced it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any ideas?
>> >> >
>> >> > -------------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> > You are hearing the ABS charging up. I think it's mentioned in
>> >> > your owner's manual. Clean and tighten BOTH ends of BOTH battery
>> >> > cables. They aren't able to carry current because something is
>> >> > loose.
>> >> >
>> >> > Heat is hard of batteries too.
>> >> >
>> >> > 'Curly'
>> >>
>> >> Honda starters also have solenoid contact problems,some solenoids
>> >> can be replaced,others need the contacts and plunger replaced,or a
>> >> rebuilt starter installed.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jim Yanik
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > I had such a problem with a '76 Honda Civic. My cure was to wack
>> > it (starter) with a jack handle and this worked for nearly a year
>> > after which I had it rebuilt..
>> >
>> > JT
>> >
>>
>> On my 94 Integra,I bought the parts for $30 PPD,and replaced the
>> contacts and plunger myself.
>> The hardest part was getting out the lower starter bolt.(a LONG
>> one,and frozen in)
>>
>> Doing the solenoid was easy.
>>
>>
>
>
> One of the great benefits of living in Central Texas is that fifty
> year old bolts/nuts still turn...
>
> JT
>
> (Who will never live in the rust belt again...)
>

I live in central FLORIDA.
I believe it was aluminum-to-steel corrosion that froze the bolt,that white
stuff.And it had a long threaded section.I'm just glad the threads didn't
come out of the block!

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net