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Old 19 Jul 2006, 09:39 pm
Mark
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Default 1992 Honda Accord brake drag problem has been solved writeup for the FAQ

I had a problem with my front brakes dragging. Turned out part of the
problem was the wrong pads were installed because of a mixup between
the Japan version calipers and the USA version calipers. I have a USA
built car but it has the Japan version Nissin calipers. THE PADS ARE
NOT INTERCHANGABLE. The pads will fit but the fit is so tight that
they don't relaease well causing the brake drag problem. I'd like to
write up the details for the FAQ. How do I send things in for the FAQ?

Mark

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Old 19 Jul 2006, 09:51 pm
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Default Re: 1992 Honda Accord brake drag problem has been solved writeupfor the FAQ

Mark wrote:
> I had a problem with my front brakes dragging. Turned out part of the
> problem was the wrong pads were installed because of a mixup between
> the Japan version calipers and the USA version calipers. I have a USA
> built car but it has the Japan version Nissin calipers. THE PADS ARE
> NOT INTERCHANGABLE. The pads will fit but the fit is so tight that
> they don't relaease well causing the brake drag problem. I'd like to
> write up the details for the FAQ. How do I send things in for the FAQ?
>
> Mark
>

with respect, that's a highly unlikely scenario. calipers are standard
sizes. so are pads. they are indeed likely not to be interchangeable,
but not by a skinny margin like you describe. manufacturers go to great
lengths to "idiot proof" braking systems. much more likely there's some
other issue.
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 09:41 am
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Default Re: 1992 Honda Accord brake drag problem has been solved writeup for the FAQ

yup mark is right
everytime i order pads they always ask which kind of calipers you have

jim beam wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > I had a problem with my front brakes dragging. Turned out part of the
> > problem was the wrong pads were installed because of a mixup between
> > the Japan version calipers and the USA version calipers. I have a USA
> > built car but it has the Japan version Nissin calipers. THE PADS ARE
> > NOT INTERCHANGABLE. The pads will fit but the fit is so tight that
> > they don't relaease well causing the brake drag problem. I'd like to
> > write up the details for the FAQ. How do I send things in for the FAQ?
> >
> > Mark
> >

> with respect, that's a highly unlikely scenario. calipers are standard
> sizes. so are pads. they are indeed likely not to be interchangeable,
> but not by a skinny margin like you describe. manufacturers go to great
> lengths to "idiot proof" braking systems. much more likely there's some
> other issue.


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Old 20 Jul 2006, 04:33 pm
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Default Re: 1992 Honda Accord brake drag problem has been solved writeup for the FAQ


jim beam wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > I had a problem with my front brakes dragging. Turned out part of the
> > problem was the wrong pads were installed because of a mixup between
> > the Japan version calipers and the USA version calipers. I have a USA
> > built car but it has the Japan version Nissin calipers. THE PADS ARE
> > NOT INTERCHANGABLE. The pads will fit but the fit is so tight that
> > they don't relaease well causing the brake drag problem. I'd like to
> > write up the details for the FAQ. How do I send things in for the FAQ?
> >
> > Mark
> >

> with respect, that's a highly unlikely scenario. calipers are standard
> sizes. so are pads. they are indeed likely not to be interchangeable,
> but not by a skinny margin like you describe. manufacturers go to great
> lengths to "idiot proof" braking systems. much more likely there's some
> other issue.


nope I now have both sets of pads, they have different part numbers,
they do look very similar and they do both NOMINALLY fit into the
caliper , but the USA version pads fit tightly into the JAPAN version
calipers thereby causing the problem...

and if you go by the VIN number of the car, you might get the wrong
pads, you have to actually check which type of caliper you have...my
trouble all started becasue they sold me USA pads based on my VIN
number, but I have Japan Nissin version calipers..

the USA pads fit into the caliper, but I didn't notice that they were
not EXACTLY the same and the fit was tight causing the brakes to drag.

thats why I want to write this up for the FAQ.

Mark

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Old 20 Jul 2006, 07:50 pm
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Default Re: 1992 Honda Accord brake drag problem has been solved writeup for the FAQ

On 20 Jul 2006 14:33:52 -0700, "Mark" <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>jim beam wrote:
>> Mark wrote:
>> > I had a problem with my front brakes dragging. Turned out part of the
>> > problem was the wrong pads were installed because of a mixup between
>> > the Japan version calipers and the USA version calipers. I have a USA
>> > built car but it has the Japan version Nissin calipers. THE PADS ARE
>> > NOT INTERCHANGABLE. The pads will fit but the fit is so tight that
>> > they don't relaease well causing the brake drag problem. I'd like to
>> > write up the details for the FAQ. How do I send things in for the FAQ?
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >

>> with respect, that's a highly unlikely scenario. calipers are standard
>> sizes. so are pads. they are indeed likely not to be interchangeable,
>> but not by a skinny margin like you describe. manufacturers go to great
>> lengths to "idiot proof" braking systems. much more likely there's some
>> other issue.

>
>nope I now have both sets of pads, they have different part numbers,
>they do look very similar and they do both NOMINALLY fit into the
>caliper , but the USA version pads fit tightly into the JAPAN version
>calipers thereby causing the problem...
>
>and if you go by the VIN number of the car, you might get the wrong
>pads, you have to actually check which type of caliper you have...my
>trouble all started becasue they sold me USA pads based on my VIN
>number, but I have Japan Nissin version calipers..
>
>the USA pads fit into the caliper, but I didn't notice that they were
>not EXACTLY the same and the fit was tight causing the brakes to drag.
>
>thats why I want to write this up for the FAQ.
>
>Mark


Just out of curiosity, why does your car have Japanese calipers?
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 09:10 pm
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dgk wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2006 14:33:52 -0700, "Mark" <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >jim beam wrote:
> >> Mark wrote:
> >> > I had a problem with my front brakes dragging. Turned out part of the
> >> > problem was the wrong pads were installed because of a mixup between
> >> > the Japan version calipers and the USA version calipers. I have a USA
> >> > built car but it has the Japan version Nissin calipers. THE PADS ARE
> >> > NOT INTERCHANGABLE. The pads will fit but the fit is so tight that
> >> > they don't relaease well causing the brake drag problem. I'd like to
> >> > write up the details for the FAQ. How do I send things in for the FAQ?
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> with respect, that's a highly unlikely scenario. calipers are standard
> >> sizes. so are pads. they are indeed likely not to be interchangeable,
> >> but not by a skinny margin like you describe. manufacturers go to great
> >> lengths to "idiot proof" braking systems. much more likely there's some
> >> other issue.

> >
> >nope I now have both sets of pads, they have different part numbers,
> >they do look very similar and they do both NOMINALLY fit into the
> >caliper , but the USA version pads fit tightly into the JAPAN version
> >calipers thereby causing the problem...
> >
> >and if you go by the VIN number of the car, you might get the wrong
> >pads, you have to actually check which type of caliper you have...my
> >trouble all started becasue they sold me USA pads based on my VIN
> >number, but I have Japan Nissin version calipers..
> >
> >the USA pads fit into the caliper, but I didn't notice that they were
> >not EXACTLY the same and the fit was tight causing the brakes to drag.
> >
> >thats why I want to write this up for the FAQ.
> >
> >Mark

>
> Just out of curiosity, why does your car have Japanese calipers?


I have no idea, I bought the car used a few years ago. It's possible
someone changed them, or it's possible that the VIN number is not an
accurate indication of the type of calipers that were oringinally
installed .. the message is, when buying new pads, check the actual
calipers, don't go by the VIN number...

The USA calipers have caliper pins that thread directly into the
threaded caliper ears.
The JAPAN calipers have non threaded ears and a small bolt is used that
threads into the calier pin. Or you can tell by the manufacterer's
name embossed on the caliper. Mine were Nissin.

Mark

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Old 21 Jul 2006, 06:53 am
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"Mark" <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> I had a problem with my front brakes dragging. Turned out part of the
> problem was the wrong pads were installed because of a mixup between
> the Japan version calipers and the USA version calipers. I have a USA
> built car but it has the Japan version Nissin calipers. THE PADS ARE
> NOT INTERCHANGABLE. The pads will fit but the fit is so tight that
> they don't relaease well causing the brake drag problem. I'd like to
> write up the details for the FAQ. How do I send things in for the FAQ?
>



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Old 21 Jul 2006, 08:24 am
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Default Re: 1992 Honda Accord brake drag problem has been solved writeupfor the FAQ

Mark wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> Mark wrote:
>>> I had a problem with my front brakes dragging. Turned out part of the
>>> problem was the wrong pads were installed because of a mixup between
>>> the Japan version calipers and the USA version calipers. I have a USA
>>> built car but it has the Japan version Nissin calipers. THE PADS ARE
>>> NOT INTERCHANGABLE. The pads will fit but the fit is so tight that
>>> they don't relaease well causing the brake drag problem. I'd like to
>>> write up the details for the FAQ. How do I send things in for the FAQ?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>

>> with respect, that's a highly unlikely scenario. calipers are standard
>> sizes. so are pads. they are indeed likely not to be interchangeable,
>> but not by a skinny margin like you describe. manufacturers go to great
>> lengths to "idiot proof" braking systems. much more likely there's some
>> other issue.

>
> nope I now have both sets of pads, they have different part numbers,
> they do look very similar and they do both NOMINALLY fit into the
> caliper , but the USA version pads fit tightly into the JAPAN version
> calipers thereby causing the problem...


are both pads from the same manufacturer and/or are they aftermarket?

>
> and if you go by the VIN number of the car, you might get the wrong
> pads, you have to actually check which type of caliper you have...my
> trouble all started becasue they sold me USA pads based on my VIN
> number, but I have Japan Nissin version calipers..
>
> the USA pads fit into the caliper, but I didn't notice that they were
> not EXACTLY the same and the fit was tight causing the brakes to drag.
>
> thats why I want to write this up for the FAQ.
>
> Mark
>

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