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Old 30 Jun 2006, 06:16 pm
YaleBoundCivic
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I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
Thanks
Josh

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Old 30 Jun 2006, 07:25 pm
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"YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:

> I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
> was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
> clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
> starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
> Thanks
> Josh
>
>


Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a replaceable
solenoid....without having to replace the entire starter,but if that's not
the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then check out this site;
http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
You can buy replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the
solenoid yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to do
my starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in order
to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into the aluminum
block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts and plunger was
easy.

The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by the
starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You hear the
clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the contacts are not
completing the circuit for the motor to get power.

I'm not associated with the abovementioned company,just a satisfied
customer.


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Old 30 Jun 2006, 08:27 pm
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Default Re: Clicking, but no starting

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
>
>>I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
>>was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
>>clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
>>starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>>Thanks
>>Josh
>>
>>

>
>
> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a replaceable
> solenoid....without having to replace the entire starter,but if that's not
> the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then check out this site;
> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html


that's a great link for tegger's honda faq!

> You can buy replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the
> solenoid yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to do
> my starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in order
> to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into the aluminum
> block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts and plunger was
> easy.
>
> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by the
> starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You hear the
> clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the contacts are not
> completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>
> I'm not associated with the abovementioned company,just a satisfied
> customer.
>
>

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Old 30 Jun 2006, 09:07 pm
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"YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:

> I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
> was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
> clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
> starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
> Thanks
> Josh
>



Checked the battery's state-of-charge?

Cleaned the cables and connections?

Do that first, then condemn more expensive stuff.

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Old 30 Jun 2006, 10:03 pm
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jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
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> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>>
>>>I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX.
>>>It was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
>>>clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
>>>starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>>>Thanks
>>>Josh
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a
>> replaceable solenoid....without having to replace the entire
>> starter,but if that's not the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then
>> check out this site;
>> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html

>
> that's a great link for tegger's honda faq!



Yeah, it is. And I'll have to add it.

I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any more.
Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had for a
decade.




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Old 30 Jun 2006, 10:11 pm
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TeGGeR® wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
> news:d7udndKbH7PEXDjZnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>
>
>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>>>"YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googl egroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX.
>>>>It was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
>>>>clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
>>>>starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Josh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a
>>>replaceable solenoid....without having to replace the entire
>>>starter,but if that's not the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then
>>>check out this site;
>>>http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html

>>
>>that's a great link for tegger's honda faq!

>
>
>
> Yeah, it is. And I'll have to add it.
>
> I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any more.


mitsuba? of main relay failure fame? i'm not sure that's a bad decision!

> Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had for a
> decade.
>
>
>
>

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Old 30 Jun 2006, 10:46 pm
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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97F2E08C557ACtegger@207.14.116.130:

> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
> news:d7udndKbH7PEXDjZnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>
>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX.
>>>>It was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is
>>>>a clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
>>>>starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Josh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a
>>> replaceable solenoid....without having to replace the entire
>>> starter,but if that's not the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then
>>> check out this site;
>>> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html

>>
>> that's a great link for tegger's honda faq!

>
>
> Yeah, it is. And I'll have to add it.
>
> I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any
> more. Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had
> for a decade.
>
>
>
>


Well,$30 for a contact/plunger kit is still better than what you'd pay for
a Mitsuba starter,even rebuilt.
As I said,replacing the contacts was the easiest part of the job.
Knowing it only cost me $30(and some skinned knuckles);priceless! ;-)

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Old 30 Jun 2006, 11:42 pm
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YaleBoundCivic wrote:
> I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
> was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
> clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
> starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.


It's an interesting note that it's happening right after replacing the
flywheel. If you can jump/short the three wires on the starter/solenoid
and it still clicks, not turning over, than it's not the solenoid
contacts. Maybe the starter mounting nuts aren't tight?

Alan

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Old 01 Jul 2006, 05:50 am
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Jim Yanik wrote:
>
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
> > was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
> > clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
> > starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
> > Thanks
> > Josh
> >
> >

>
> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a replaceable
> solenoid....without having to replace the entire starter,but if that's not
> the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then check out this site;
> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
> You can buy replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the
> solenoid yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to
> do my starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in
> order to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into the
> aluminum block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts and
> plunger was easy.
>
> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by the
> starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You hear the
> clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the contacts are not
> completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>


I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the plunger and
never had a come back. There's very little wear on the plunger side of the
contact. Honda used to, and may still sell a replacement starter contact
kit. These included the contact and the plastic bushings. In addition,
just so others know, the contact can usually be replaced with the starter
still in the car (only one of the contacts need to be replaced as the other
does not wear much at all). I've done many and not found a need to remove
it. These were mostly earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose
that some later models which could have more crowded engine compartments
might be problematic.

Eric
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Old 01 Jul 2006, 06:12 am
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Default Re: Clicking, but no starting

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any more.
> Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had for a
> decade.
>


I'm a bit confused. Honda has had starter contact problems for years. I
replaced the starter contact on my '78 Accord. Early Civics from the same
vintage, e.g. '76, also used a starter with a replaceable contact.

Eric
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