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Old 26 Jun 2011, 12:01 pm
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My sister-in-law bought a 2011 Honda Accord a few months ago and has
been struggling to find a solution to those absurd headrests. Right now
she has them all reversed, and I helped her notch the opposite post so
they latch in. This helped, except for the center rear headrest which is
very small and has short posts because of the fold down console, and
when reversed is totally non-functional. This is the seat she would like
her 7 y.o. to sit in, but the child's head is now reaching the headrest,
and it's so uncomfortable that the child was squawking about how it hurt.

I see a large number of complaints about the Honda headrests, but no
good solutions. Some people say reclining the seat further helps. Some
say using a cushion behind you to push the rest of your body forward
helps. Some say to take them to an auto upholstery shop and have them
modified. Some suggest after-market LCD headrests that don't jut
forward. I've seen the Pyle LCD headrests which aren't all that
expensive (about $63 each) even if you don't use the 7" LCD. They come
with 1/2" post sleeves which are needed for the Honda (some LCD screen
headrests don't have large enough diameter posts, and there have been
complaints by Honda owners that bought them that they don't latch in).
However from the specifications on this headrest, it may not allow the
posts to be close enough together to replace the middle headrest in the
back.

What are others doing? I tried sitting in her Accord with the headrest
facing forward and it's incredibly uncomfortable. She also has a Honda
Pilot, and that vehicle does not have this issue, but the headrests are
not interchangeable (besides being the wrong color and material).

I know the reason Honda did the headrests like this, but personally this
is more than enough to prevent me from buying an Accord. She would not
have bought the Accord if she had realized how bad the head rests were.
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Old 26 Jun 2011, 01:53 pm
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On 06/26/2011 10:01 AM, SMS wrote:
> My sister-in-law bought a 2011 Honda Accord a few months ago and has
> been struggling to find a solution to those absurd headrests. Right now
> she has them all reversed, and I helped her notch the opposite post so
> they latch in. This helped, except for the center rear headrest which is
> very small and has short posts because of the fold down console, and
> when reversed is totally non-functional. This is the seat she would like
> her 7 y.o. to sit in, but the child's head is now reaching the headrest,
> and it's so uncomfortable that the child was squawking about how it hurt.
>
> I see a large number of complaints about the Honda headrests, but no
> good solutions. Some people say reclining the seat further helps. Some
> say using a cushion behind you to push the rest of your body forward
> helps. Some say to take them to an auto upholstery shop and have them
> modified. Some suggest after-market LCD headrests that don't jut
> forward. I've seen the Pyle LCD headrests which aren't all that
> expensive (about $63 each) even if you don't use the 7" LCD. They come
> with 1/2" post sleeves which are needed for the Honda (some LCD screen
> headrests don't have large enough diameter posts, and there have been
> complaints by Honda owners that bought them that they don't latch in).
> However from the specifications on this headrest, it may not allow the
> posts to be close enough together to replace the middle headrest in the
> back.
>
> What are others doing? I tried sitting in her Accord with the headrest
> facing forward and it's incredibly uncomfortable. She also has a Honda
> Pilot, and that vehicle does not have this issue, but the headrests are
> not interchangeable (besides being the wrong color and material).
>
> I know the reason Honda did the headrests like this, but personally this
> is more than enough to prevent me from buying an Accord. She would not
> have bought the Accord if she had realized how bad the head rests were.


did she not test drive it??? instead of wasting electrons here, why
don't you write to honda corporate and say she wants to return the car
and get her money back? if nobody says anything, nothing will happen.
if everybody does something, that thing will get fixed quicker than
you'd believe. y'all only have all y'all to blame if y'don't do nuthin'.


--
nomina rutrum rutrum
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Old 26 Jun 2011, 02:20 pm
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"SMS" wrote in message news:4e0765de$0$2164$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

My sister-in-law bought a 2011 Honda Accord a few months ago and has
been struggling to find a solution to those absurd headrests. Right now
she has them all reversed, and I helped her notch the opposite post so
they latch in. This helped, except for the center rear headrest which is
very small and has short posts because of the fold down console, and
when reversed is totally non-functional. This is the seat she would like
her 7 y.o. to sit in, but the child's head is now reaching the headrest,
and it's so uncomfortable that the child was squawking about how it hurt.

I see a large number of complaints about the Honda headrests, but no
good solutions. Some people say reclining the seat further helps. Some
say using a cushion behind you to push the rest of your body forward
helps. Some say to take them to an auto upholstery shop and have them
modified. Some suggest after-market LCD headrests that don't jut
forward. I've seen the Pyle LCD headrests which aren't all that
expensive (about $63 each) even if you don't use the 7" LCD. They come
with 1/2" post sleeves which are needed for the Honda (some LCD screen
headrests don't have large enough diameter posts, and there have been
complaints by Honda owners that bought them that they don't latch in).
However from the specifications on this headrest, it may not allow the
posts to be close enough together to replace the middle headrest in the
back.

The complaints I have seen talk to the seats being uncomfortable on long
drives. By comparison, the seats in my 06 coupe are very comfortable. I
suppose there must have been a major redesign for the supposed better.

What are others doing? I tried sitting in her Accord with the headrest
facing forward and it's incredibly uncomfortable. She also has a Honda
Pilot, and that vehicle does not have this issue, but the headrests are
not interchangeable (besides being the wrong color and material).

I know the reason Honda did the headrests like this, but personally this
is more than enough to prevent me from buying an Accord. She would not
have bought the Accord if she had realized how bad the head rests were.

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Old 26 Jun 2011, 04:08 pm
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On 6/26/11 1:01 PM, SMS wrote:

> My sister-in-law bought a 2011 Honda Accord a few months ago and has
> been struggling to find a solution to those absurd headrests.



Not sure what her problem is but mine are fine. In fact, one of the
reasons I bought my Accord is that the seats are so damned comfortable.

Surprised she didn't notice the incompatibility between her ass and the
Accord seat right off when she sat in the car in the showroom, much less
on the test drive...
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Old 26 Jun 2011, 04:43 pm
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In article <4e0765de$0$2164$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> My sister-in-law bought a 2011 Honda Accord a few months ago and has
> been struggling to find a solution to those absurd headrests.


Why the **** did she buy the car knowing that was a problem?

I refuse to buy any more Hondas, for a number of reasons, and that's one
of the top ones.

I know--just like a typical woman, she figured she'd marry the car now
and change it later, no problem.
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Old 26 Jun 2011, 04:44 pm
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In article <4e0765de$0$2164$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> I see a large number of complaints about the Honda headrests, but no
> good solutions. Some people say reclining the seat further helps.


It does. It's not perfect, but you get used to it.

No need to go all gangsta lean; just put it back a bit.
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Old 26 Jun 2011, 04:45 pm
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In article <yJydnbgQ88TfHZrTnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> did she not test drive it??? instead of wasting electrons here, why
> don't you write to honda corporate and say she wants to return the car
> and get her money back? if nobody says anything, nothing will happen.
> if everybody does something, that thing will get fixed quicker than
> you'd believe. y'all only have all y'all to blame if y'don't do nuthin'.


Worse: in American Honda's minds, she justified their decision by
buying the car in the first place.

American Honda needs to be put in its place, but stupid people keep
doing stupid things that move money from their pockets to American
Honda's pockets.
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Old 26 Jun 2011, 05:22 pm
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On 6/26/2011 2:45 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> American Honda needs to be put in its place, but stupid people keep
> doing stupid things that move money from their pockets to American
> Honda's pockets.


This is true.

I had the first year CR-V (I know, big mistake buying the first year of
anything). The cruise control had a design flaw that every owner
experienced if they ever drove on a highway that wasn't flat. Honda
acknowledged the problem, explained what caused it, and said that they
would not fix it. In subsequent years of the same generation they did
correct the problem. But that was my last Honda, I just didn't like the
company's whole attitude.

In any case, I wasn't looking for a lecture on the subject of how dumb
someone was for not realizing the problem (she already admits how dumb
it was), I was hoping that given how big a seller the Accord is, and
given that all recent Accord buyers have the same problem (unless they
are vertically challenged), that someone would have some ideas for a
solution.

Apparently it's not limited to the Accord, as Civic owners have also
complained. The foam solution worked for one,
<http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/headrest-solutions-t1274.html>, and on
the CR-V <http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/headrest-solutions-t1274.html>.

As to why it wasn't noticed on the test drive, I think that last URL
represents the experience of many of the owners that are complaining,
they just didn't realize the problem until it was too late.

Apparently some other vehicles have the same issue because the jutting
forward headrests are part of the restraint system. So the best solution
that doesn't mess with the headrests is probably to add foam padding to
the seat back. Some people put on seat covers over the foam but that's a
bad idea on the Accord because there are airbags in the seats.
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Old 26 Jun 2011, 06:40 pm
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In article <4e07b124$0$2152$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> Apparently it's not limited to the Accord, as Civic owners have also
> complained.


I noticed it right away when I got into the Insight when it was
(re)introduced. My long-time salesman warned me, this is the direction
Honda is going.

Really. Well.
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Old 26 Jun 2011, 06:53 pm
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On 6/26/2011 4:40 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<4e07b124$0$2152$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Apparently it's not limited to the Accord, as Civic owners have also
>> complained.

>
> I noticed it right away when I got into the Insight when it was
> (re)introduced. My long-time salesman warned me, this is the direction
> Honda is going.
>
> Really. Well.


Some people (many people) buy cars (and other products) on emotion
without doing sufficient research.

What's ironic about this case is that my sister-in-law complained about
the head rests in our 2007 Camry which are not nearly as horrible as
what Honda has done in the Accord.

Personally, if it were my vehicle, I would buy the after-market
headrests with the LCD screens for at least the front seats (whether I
wanted the LCDs or not). I would not reverse the headrests as many
people have done to "fix" the problem. I would take the risk that the
after-market headrests were less protective in a crash. The seats are so
incredibly uncomfortable when the headrest pushes your head so far
forward that I would not tolerate it. On a $19,000 vehicle, another $140
is lost in the noise.

<http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2008/consumer-reviews/seats-headrests-are-uncomfortable.html?style=100939053&sub=&reviewId=9 6061777>
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