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Old 18 Jun 2006, 12:22 pm
Nino NoSpam
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Default Honda Oil Filter Vs. Fram Oil Filter?

I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda filter
has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?

Thanks


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Old 18 Jun 2006, 01:31 pm
Alan
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Default Re: Honda Oil Filter Vs. Fram Oil Filter?


Nino NoSpam wrote:
> I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda filter
> has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
> this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?


I don't know of any filter that leaks as long as the O ring is wiped
with clean oil before installing.

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Old 18 Jun 2006, 02:44 pm
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"Nino NoSpam" <Nino.NoSpam@unsubscribenews@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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: I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda
filter
: has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
: this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?
:
: Thanks
:
I've been using Fram oil filters on several cars (including three Hondas)
for years and have never had a problem with any of them.

Paul


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Old 18 Jun 2006, 05:36 pm
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Default Re: Honda Oil Filter Vs. Fram Oil Filter?

Nino NoSpam wrote:
> I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda filter
> has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
> this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?
>
> Thanks
>
>

the o-ring makes no difference to leakage, but it's cheaper, just like
everything else about the fram filter. google for a number of web sites
and you'll where people have dissected multiple brands of filters, and
fram always comes out worst.

one last thing about the fram o-ring: the flat type they use can
sometimes stick to the block when the filter is removed. if this is not
noticed, "double-ringing" can occur, and if you're lucky, oil sprays all
over the engine bay when you go to start. it's a real pita to clean up
and you need to change your accessory belts. if you're not so lucky,
this happens on the freeway with /much/ more serious [and expensive]
consequences.
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Old 18 Jun 2006, 05:54 pm
John Horner
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Default Re: Honda Oil Filter Vs. Fram Oil Filter?

Nino NoSpam wrote:
> I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda filter
> has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
> this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?
>
> Thanks
>
>


The photos I have seen seem to show that the Honda and Fram filters are
constructed differently in several ways. Just because Fram makes them
for Honda does not mean they are the same thing.

John
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Old 18 Jun 2006, 06:16 pm
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"Nino NoSpam" <Nino.NoSpam@unsubscribenews@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda filter
>has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
>this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?
>
> Thanks
>


What's the price difference between a Fram filter and a Honda filter? The
extra bucks you spend for a genuine Honda filter (whoever makes it) seems a
small price to pay every 5,000 miles or so.
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Old 18 Jun 2006, 09:44 pm
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Default Re: Honda Oil Filter Vs. Fram Oil Filter?

Talking about Honda filters, When I went to the Honda dealer,
to get my oil filters, he said that there is a new type filter, smaller,
for my 98 4cylinder Accord. It does not seal correctly.
The out side of the filter bottoms out on the filter casting area.
The gasket does not compress enought! The parts man said that I have the
correct
filter..anyone else have this problem? I have bee using Puralator,
pennzoil,Fram
and they all fit ok.
Andy




"Nino NoSpam" <Nino.NoSpam@unsubscribenews@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda filter
>has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
>this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?
>
> Thanks
>



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Old 18 Jun 2006, 11:56 pm
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Default Re: Honda Oil Filter Vs. Fram Oil Filter?

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:44:29 GMT, "Andy & Carol"
<aforn@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Talking about Honda filters, When I went to the Honda dealer,
>to get my oil filters, he said that there is a new type filter, smaller,
>for my 98 4cylinder Accord. It does not seal correctly.
>The out side of the filter bottoms out on the filter casting area.
>The gasket does not compress enought! The parts man said that I have the
>correct
>filter..anyone else have this problem? I have bee using Puralator,
>pennzoil,Fram
>and they all fit ok.
>Andy


I have installed two or three of the new type on my '98 Ody and '94
GSR. They are a little hard to start threading but once started, they
seem to seat fine. I am more concerned about the possible reduction
in filter capacity.


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Old 19 Jun 2006, 09:03 pm
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"Andy & Carol" <aforn@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
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> Talking about Honda filters, When I went to the Honda dealer,
> to get my oil filters, he said that there is a new type filter,
> smaller, for my 98 4cylinder Accord.




What's the part number? About 90% of Hondas use 15400-PLM-A02.



> It does not seal
> correctly. The out side of the filter bottoms out on the filter
> casting area. The gasket does not compress enought! The parts man
> said that I have the correct
> filter..




I still have one of the old-style filters here. The gasket on the old one
does indeed stick out quite a ways more than on the new one. However, if
the mounting surface is FLAT, it should not matter.

Do you have a groove worn into your filter mounting surface?




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Old 19 Jun 2006, 10:25 pm
Andy & Carol
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Default Re: Honda Oil Filter Vs. Fram Oil Filter?

Mounting surface is flat but the outer case of the filter
bottomes out, digs in to the casting, and then you cannot
compress the gasket anymore, hand tight. With the old larger,filter,
the outside of the filter goes beyond the casting, and then the
gasket seals properly. I just doen't use the new Honda filter.
All other brands are the same size as the old filter.
Andy



"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Andy & Carol" <aforn@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
> news:1knlg.211569$Fs1.131725@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>> Talking about Honda filters, When I went to the Honda dealer,
>> to get my oil filters, he said that there is a new type filter,
>> smaller, for my 98 4cylinder Accord.

>
>
>
> What's the part number? About 90% of Hondas use 15400-PLM-A02.
>
>
>
>> It does not seal
>> correctly. The out side of the filter bottoms out on the filter
>> casting area. The gasket does not compress enought! The parts man
>> said that I have the correct
>> filter..

>
>
>
> I still have one of the old-style filters here. The gasket on the old one
> does indeed stick out quite a ways more than on the new one. However, if
> the mounting surface is FLAT, it should not matter.
>
> Do you have a groove worn into your filter mounting surface?
>
>
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
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> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/



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