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They are trying to prevent 'gray market' sales. Meaning buying a car in an
area where its cheaper due to market conditions and then taking it to another
market where the price is inflated.

A couple years ago when the US exchange on canadian dollars was ridiculous,
this practice was rampant, especially on trucks. A $20000CAD truck in Canada
was $20000USD in the US. At 1.4 exchange, it meant you could turn an $8000
profit just by driving it down.

Car companies prevent this by making it difficult to do on newer vehicles by
not honoring the warranty unless you can prove you are moving to the
specified market.

t

Traveller wrote:
>Did you know that Honda Canada will not honor warranty if I purchase a car
>in the us and bring it up to Canada. I tried to do this and they just
>flipped out.
>>> Many places I tried did not want to deal or act in a Pro manner.
>>
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>>
>> Steve

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We're also in the market for a new 2006 Civic LX 4d AT (no extra
options) in the Boston area. After negotiating, our best quote is
$16,300 (includes $550 destination charge) + $198 doc fee + $86 new
plates + 5% tax ($17,404 total out the door). We've found at least 2
places that will do this. We're going with the dealership that also
gives 5 free oil changes, free unlimited car washes, free loaner car,
free towing within 20 mile radius and free shuttle service. It
definitely pays to ask if there are service advantages to buying at a
particular dealership. Most other dealerships are charging sticker.


learnfpga@gmail.com wrote:
> I been in the market for a 2006 civic for last couple of weeks and
> dealers in Boston area have been horrible. The car is selling like hot
> cakes and so no one wants to budge. Anyways I thought it would be
> useful to do a survey of approximate cost of Civics 2006 model .
>
> Please include area, model (DX,LX,EX,hybrid), price without taxes and
> documentation and extra options if any. Thanks all for the effort...

Which dealer ship are you finally going to?...............
Gtr wrote:
> We're also in the market for a new 2006 Civic LX 4d AT (no extra
> options) in the Boston area. After negotiating, our best quote is
> $16,300 (includes $550 destination charge) + $198 doc fee + $86 new
> plates + 5% tax ($17,404 total out the door). We've found at least 2
> places that will do this. We're going with the dealership that also
> gives 5 free oil changes, free unlimited car washes, free loaner car,
> free towing within 20 mile radius and free shuttle service. It
> definitely pays to ask if there are service advantages to buying at a
> particular dealership. Most other dealerships are charging sticker.
>
>
> learnfpga@gmail.com wrote:
> > I been in the market for a 2006 civic for last couple of weeks and
> > dealers in Boston area have been horrible. The car is selling like hot
> > cakes and so no one wants to budge. Anyways I thought it would be
> > useful to do a survey of approximate cost of Civics 2006 model .
> >
> > Please include area, model (DX,LX,EX,hybrid), price without taxes and
> > documentation and extra options if any. Thanks all for the effort...

We bought a new 2006 Accord LX automatic for $16,888 (includes
destination) instead because we thought it was a better value. In
fact, the same dealership wanted $17,800 for a new 2006 Civic LX AT,
but we had a price of $16,300 elsewhere (includes destination). The
Accord was a good deal, no? Laws of supply and demand...


learnfpga@gmail.com wrote:
> Which dealer ship are you finally going to?...............
> Gtr wrote:
> > We're also in the market for a new 2006 Civic LX 4d AT (no extra
> > options) in the Boston area. After negotiating, our best quote is
> > $16,300 (includes $550 destination charge) + $198 doc fee + $86 new
> > plates + 5% tax ($17,404 total out the door). We've found at least 2
> > places that will do this. We're going with the dealership that also
> > gives 5 free oil changes, free unlimited car washes, free loaner car,
> > free towing within 20 mile radius and free shuttle service. It
> > definitely pays to ask if there are service advantages to buying at a
> > particular dealership. Most other dealerships are charging sticker.
> >
> >
> > learnfpga@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I been in the market for a 2006 civic for last couple of weeks and
> > > dealers in Boston area have been horrible. The car is selling like hot
> > > cakes and so no one wants to budge. Anyways I thought it would be
> > > useful to do a survey of approximate cost of Civics 2006 model .
> > >
> > > Please include area, model (DX,LX,EX,hybrid), price without taxes and
> > > documentation and extra options if any. Thanks all for the effort...

Wow, I'd say you got an excellent deal! I thought I had a great deal on my
'05 Accord LX - MANUAL last year for $16945. You scored an excellent deal.
How did you manage that?

-Dave


<eva070@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> We bought a new 2006 Accord LX automatic for $16,888 (includes
> destination) instead because we thought it was a better value. In
> fact, the same dealership wanted $17,800 for a new 2006 Civic LX AT,
> but we had a price of $16,300 elsewhere (includes destination). The
> Accord was a good deal, no? Laws of supply and demand...
>
>
> learnfpga@gmail.com wrote:
>> Which dealer ship are you finally going to?...............
>> Gtr wrote:
>> > We're also in the market for a new 2006 Civic LX 4d AT (no extra
>> > options) in the Boston area. After negotiating, our best quote is
>> > $16,300 (includes $550 destination charge) + $198 doc fee + $86 new
>> > plates + 5% tax ($17,404 total out the door). We've found at least 2
>> > places that will do this. We're going with the dealership that also
>> > gives 5 free oil changes, free unlimited car washes, free loaner car,
>> > free towing within 20 mile radius and free shuttle service. It
>> > definitely pays to ask if there are service advantages to buying at a
>> > particular dealership. Most other dealerships are charging sticker.
>> >
>> >
>> > learnfpga@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > I been in the market for a 2006 civic for last couple of weeks and
>> > > dealers in Boston area have been horrible. The car is selling like
>> > > hot
>> > > cakes and so no one wants to budge. Anyways I thought it would be
>> > > useful to do a survey of approximate cost of Civics 2006 model .
>> > >
>> > > Please include area, model (DX,LX,EX,hybrid), price without taxes and
>> > > documentation and extra options if any. Thanks all for the effort...
>

> the same dealership wanted $17,800 for a new 2006 Civic LX AT,
> but we had a price of $16,300 elsewhere (includes destination).

Can you tell me which part of the country you are in? I am astonished
that you got a $16,300 quote for a Civic LX AT...and that includes
DEST? Is this for a 4-door Automatic?

I visited three dealerships in NY today to price the 2006 Civic LX 4Dr
Sedan, and none would budge below $17,800 base+DEST. Every dealer had
only one 4Dr Sedan on the lot, and they made it clear they would not
negotiate more than $250 below MSRP because of the high demand.

Is this just the NY market, or have you mastered some kind of Jedi
negotiating technique?

> We bought a new 2006 Accord LX automatic for $16,888 (includes
> destination) instead...The Accord was a good deal, no? Laws of
> supply and demand...

Every lot we visited had TONS of Accords, and the dealers made it clear
they were willing to discount these heavily.

We are in the Boston area and we got these prices on the following:

new 2006 Honda Civic LX AT 4 door automatic (just to be redundant)
$16,300 (incl destination)
+ 5% tax
+ $203 doc fee
and that's it!

We worked hard to negotiate that price! We have it in writing thanks
to email. Price good through July for us. Dealership also gives 5
free oil changes, free unlimited car washes, free towing w/in 20 mi,
free loaner with any new car purchase.



new 2006 Honda Accord LX 4 door automatic, 4 cylinders
$16,888 (incl destination)
+ 5% tax
+ $203 doc fee
and that's it!

Different dealership. Price good through today if they have any left.
They had a sale and advertised this price in the newspaper, even
specifiying 4d automatic LX. So we didn't even negotiate at all. Of
course they weren't going down and other dealers wouldn't touch the
price b/c it was priced below invoice. If the Civic were similarly
priced, it would cost just under $14k, which never would happen in this
market. Accord price good through today. We bought the Accord
yesterday with the thought that our family will grow in the next few
years. Plus, 5 year cost of ownership vs. Civic is not significantly
different according to Edmunds (even considering fuel cost). And the
Accord has more features, such as keyless trunk and many compartments,
and seems to drive better. No perks (oil changes, etc.) from this
dealer.

Kelly is doing a nice Civic duty.



Glad it's over and either way, we couldn't lose.




Ixkorr Oxkarr wrote:
> > the same dealership wanted $17,800 for a new 2006 Civic LX AT,
> > but we had a price of $16,300 elsewhere (includes destination).
>
> Can you tell me which part of the country you are in? I am astonished
> that you got a $16,300 quote for a Civic LX AT...and that includes
> DEST? Is this for a 4-door Automatic?
>
> I visited three dealerships in NY today to price the 2006 Civic LX 4Dr
> Sedan, and none would budge below $17,800 base+DEST. Every dealer had
> only one 4Dr Sedan on the lot, and they made it clear they would not
> negotiate more than $250 below MSRP because of the high demand.
>
> Is this just the NY market, or have you mastered some kind of Jedi
> negotiating technique?
>
> > We bought a new 2006 Accord LX automatic for $16,888 (includes
> > destination) instead...The Accord was a good deal, no? Laws of
> > supply and demand...
>
> Every lot we visited had TONS of Accords, and the dealers made it clear
> they were willing to discount these heavily.

You've got some excellent quotes. The Accord, because of the MSRP and the
Civic because it's still a hot car.

Enjoy your new ride!
-Dave


<eva070@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151931243.261407.34340@m79g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> We are in the Boston area and we got these prices on the following:
>
> new 2006 Honda Civic LX AT 4 door automatic (just to be redundant)
> $16,300 (incl destination)
> + 5% tax
> + $203 doc fee
> and that's it!
>
> We worked hard to negotiate that price! We have it in writing thanks
> to email. Price good through July for us. Dealership also gives 5
> free oil changes, free unlimited car washes, free towing w/in 20 mi,
> free loaner with any new car purchase.
>
>
>
> new 2006 Honda Accord LX 4 door automatic, 4 cylinders
> $16,888 (incl destination)
> + 5% tax
> + $203 doc fee
> and that's it!
>
> Different dealership. Price good through today if they have any left.
> They had a sale and advertised this price in the newspaper, even
> specifiying 4d automatic LX. So we didn't even negotiate at all. Of
> course they weren't going down and other dealers wouldn't touch the
> price b/c it was priced below invoice. If the Civic were similarly
> priced, it would cost just under $14k, which never would happen in this
> market. Accord price good through today. We bought the Accord
> yesterday with the thought that our family will grow in the next few
> years. Plus, 5 year cost of ownership vs. Civic is not significantly
> different according to Edmunds (even considering fuel cost). And the
> Accord has more features, such as keyless trunk and many compartments,
> and seems to drive better. No perks (oil changes, etc.) from this
> dealer.
>
> Kelly is doing a nice Civic duty.
>
>
>
> Glad it's over and either way, we couldn't lose.
>
>
>
>
> Ixkorr Oxkarr wrote:
>> > the same dealership wanted $17,800 for a new 2006 Civic LX AT,
>> > but we had a price of $16,300 elsewhere (includes destination).
>>
>> Can you tell me which part of the country you are in? I am astonished
>> that you got a $16,300 quote for a Civic LX AT...and that includes
>> DEST? Is this for a 4-door Automatic?
>>
>> I visited three dealerships in NY today to price the 2006 Civic LX 4Dr
>> Sedan, and none would budge below $17,800 base+DEST. Every dealer had
>> only one 4Dr Sedan on the lot, and they made it clear they would not
>> negotiate more than $250 below MSRP because of the high demand.
>>
>> Is this just the NY market, or have you mastered some kind of Jedi
>> negotiating technique?
>>
>> > We bought a new 2006 Accord LX automatic for $16,888 (includes
>> > destination) instead...The Accord was a good deal, no? Laws of
>> > supply and demand...
>>
>> Every lot we visited had TONS of Accords, and the dealers made it clear
>> they were willing to discount these heavily.
>

Congrats Eva on securing a good deal....

Here is what happened to me which made me start this whole post....
I went to Honda cars of Boston and they quoted me 16,500 including
destination on the net. I bargained and they decided to add spash
gaurds (mud gaurds) also for 16,500. I gave 500 downpayment and they
promised delivery in a week. I went there after a week and the manager
says he knew all along that he would not be able to deliver the car on
time....he just wanted to keep my money that day.........

Here is what I think happened and might have happened to Eva also if
she would have decided to buy Civic instead of Accord. They use
internet prices to lure customers and then if you bargain hard then
they will promise you the vehicle but never deliver it. You have two
choices take your money back as written on paper or keep bugging them
for a month and hope to get a delivery of the car.....

For the guy in NY I think this price is pretty
pervasive.....overall.....for this model of Civic....

Thanks for reading......