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Old 07 Jun 2006, 04:24 pm
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Default Toyota dominates 2006 quality rankings

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...e_down&chan=db

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Old 07 Jun 2006, 08:16 pm
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Gosi wrote:
> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...e_down&chan=db
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Yeah, I was reading that @ the dealership having my axle seal changed
under warranty.
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Old 07 Jun 2006, 08:21 pm
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"Another Tom" <sg7188@snet.net> wrote in message
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> Gosi wrote:
>> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...e_down&chan=db
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> Yeah, I was reading that @ the dealership having my axle seal changed
> under warranty.


The survey was 217 questions. when I fill out surveys, I usually don't care
much after the first 10 or so questions. I wonder how carefully the takers
of the survery actually take the survey.

Also, the survey is the first 90 days of ownership. Not very helpful if you
want a car to last 400,000 km.

Jeff


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Old 07 Jun 2006, 09:29 pm
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Another Tom" <sg7188@snet.net> wrote in message
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>> Gosi wrote:
>>> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...e_down&chan=db
>>>

>> Yeah, I was reading that @ the dealership having my axle seal changed
>> under warranty.

>
> The survey was 217 questions. when I fill out surveys, I usually don't
> care much after the first 10 or so questions. I wonder how carefully the
> takers of the survery actually take the survey.
>
> Also, the survey is the first 90 days of ownership. Not very helpful if
> you want a car to last 400,000 km.
>
> Jeff

I believe that Toyota and Lexus are the top brands but I still don't put
much value in what JD Power says. Over the years they have rubber stamped
just about every new model, even the ones that turn out to be crap.


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Old 07 Jun 2006, 10:48 pm
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:29:23 -0400, "Bob Palmer"
<jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote:

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>"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Another Tom" <sg7188@snet.net> wrote in message
>> news:u%Jhg.19694$VE1.6664@newssvr14.news.prodigy.c om...
>>> Gosi wrote:
>>>> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...e_down&chan=db
>>>>
>>> Yeah, I was reading that @ the dealership having my axle seal changed
>>> under warranty.

>>
>> The survey was 217 questions. when I fill out surveys, I usually don't
>> care much after the first 10 or so questions. I wonder how carefully the
>> takers of the survery actually take the survey.
>>
>> Also, the survey is the first 90 days of ownership. Not very helpful if
>> you want a car to last 400,000 km.
>>
>> Jeff

>I believe that Toyota and Lexus are the top brands but I still don't put
>much value in what JD Power says. Over the years they have rubber stamped
>just about every new model, even the ones that turn out to be crap.


in the Uk/EU, the ones they run with the BBC's top Gear program for
the last 10-12 years have actually been very good (oops, just found
out they've been with Experian, and not JD power for the last 4
years). Of cours,e they ask people to call in, rather than approach
them, so people are more motivated to answer, and they're not talking
new cars, right now they want *ahem* "To take part, you must own a car
registered between 2003 and 2004 on a 03, 53, 04 or 54 plate." (for
those that don't know, UK license plates stay with the car, and
indicate the age of the vehicle. Its currently on its 3rd arrangement
since it started in '64)

This is more the kind of survay thats of more use to the consumer, and
not only addresses the car, but the dealers as well.
Here's the 05 survey
http://www.topgear.com/content/featu...ries/01/1.html
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Old 08 Jun 2006, 09:13 am
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"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I've heard that if you take Lexus out of the mix, GM (minus Cadillac) gets
higher ratings.

mike


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Old 08 Jun 2006, 09:37 am
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Michael wrote:
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> I've heard that if you take Lexus out of the mix, GM (minus Cadillac) gets
> higher ratings.



Take the winner off the race results, everyone moves up a notch. <G>

Your point?
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Old 08 Jun 2006, 09:56 am
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B A R R Y wrote:
> Michael wrote:
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>>
>> I've heard that if you take Lexus out of the mix, GM (minus Cadillac)
>> gets higher ratings.

>
>
>
> Take the winner off the race results, everyone moves up a notch. <G>
>
> Your point?


he doesn't have one. a "race" assessed on the first 90 days of
ownership is a fixed race. and even when the race is fixed, domestics
are /still/ garbage. it's just pathetic [paid?] trolling.

but pathetic though that is, it's /nothing/ compared to the fact that
/we/ taught q.c. to the japanese. wtf can't we use our own freakin'
resources for our own freakin' benefit???
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Old 08 Jun 2006, 11:39 am
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Interesting according CRs survey of its over 200,000 subscribers, the 63,607
of whom responded of the 9,000,000 or so buyers who bought 2006 model
vehicles so far, Toyota buyers chose the number FOUR rated brand of vehicles
rather than the number TWO rated brand. Amazing! If one bases their
purchase of the opinions of others, why would anybody do that? The number
two brand, Hyundai, had a initial quality rating that is only a paltry .02
better than Toyota for sure, but the drive home price in generally at least
20% MORE to if one buys a Toyota.

Of course CR releases only the raw numbers to the public so one can not
quantify the type or severity on the defects. To get the details of the
survey and get the real scoop, one must pay big bucks for a copy

CR proves once again that every manufacture is building good quality
vehicles today, the only real difference is style and price. According to
CR the initial quality rate for 2006 models falls between .93 to 2.04 with
the average being only .0124. That is an industry wide improvement of 8%
from their 2005 survey. That is better than most every product on the
market today, pretty amazing considering how and where autos are used vis a
v other products.

mike hunt


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Old 08 Jun 2006, 01:07 pm
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>
> I've heard that if you take Lexus out of the mix, GM (minus Cadillac) gets
> higher ratings.
>
> mike
>


Yeah and if you add Renault, and subtract Yamaha engine and add a Suzuki
platform, then Mazda would come number one as well!!



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