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Old 17 May 2006, 01:53 pm
grinder
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Default 31mpg for the Element

I have been thinking about getting an Element and will ask owners once in
while how they like it.

One guy said he was getting 25mpg on the highway and 21mpg in the city. But
the latest was a guy who had a 2003. He said he was getting 31mpg on the
highway and 28 in the city. Seems a little high.


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Old 17 May 2006, 04:17 pm
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grinder wrote:
>
> I have been thinking about getting an Element and will ask owners once in
> while how they like it.
>
> One guy said he was getting 25mpg on the highway and 21mpg in the city. But
> the latest was a guy who had a 2003. He said he was getting 31mpg on the
> highway and 28 in the city. Seems a little high.



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Hang around any N.G. long enough and you'll see that MANY people haven't
figured out that the Gas Station prints the actual VOLUME of fuel right
on the reciept. They fill the tank ten times and assume they've used 10
'tankfulls' of fuel. They look in the sales brochure (never the owner's
manual) and find out the tank holds (say 16 gal) and they went X miles.
They divide it all out and BRAG about their fantastic mileage.

Now you know how they did it. I'm not kidding.

'Curly'
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Old 17 May 2006, 07:48 pm
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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>I have been thinking about getting an Element and will ask owners once in
>while how they like it.
>
> One guy said he was getting 25mpg on the highway and 21mpg in the city.
> But the latest was a guy who had a 2003. He said he was getting 31mpg on
> the highway and 28 in the city. Seems a little high.


I have a 2005 manual Element AWD, and my combined city/highway mileage is a
little over 24 MPG. Not bad for a vehicle that is as aerodynamic as a
toaster!

Steve


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Old 17 May 2006, 07:49 pm
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"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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: grinder wrote:
: >
: > I have been thinking about getting an Element and will ask owners once
in
: > while how they like it.
: >
: > One guy said he was getting 25mpg on the highway and 21mpg in the city.
But
: > the latest was a guy who had a 2003. He said he was getting 31mpg on
the
: > highway and 28 in the city. Seems a little high.
:
:
: --------------------------------------
:
: Hang around any N.G. long enough and you'll see that MANY people haven't
: figured out that the Gas Station prints the actual VOLUME of fuel right
: on the reciept. They fill the tank ten times and assume they've used 10
: 'tankfulls' of fuel. They look in the sales brochure (never the owner's
: manual) and find out the tank holds (say 16 gal) and they went X miles.
: They divide it all out and BRAG about their fantastic mileage.
:
: Now you know how they did it. I'm not kidding.
:
: 'Curly'

Seems to me it would work the other way. If you assumed you were putting in
the full capacity (say, 16 gallons), you'd come up with a lower MPG figure
than if you calculated it based on what you actually put in (say, 14
gallons).

Paul


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Old 17 May 2006, 08:44 pm
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in
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> I have been thinking about getting an Element and will ask owners once
> in while how they like it.
>
> One guy said he was getting 25mpg on the highway and 21mpg in the
> city. But the latest was a guy who had a 2003. He said he was
> getting 31mpg on the highway and 28 in the city. Seems a little high.
>
>



Answer: Nobody really knows.

Nobody I personally know does actual recording of fill amount and mileage
covered, and does this with EVERY fillup for the whole year. Nobody.

And without the data thus generated, EVERYbody is guessing as to their real
mileage.

I record for both our cars in a book, in this manner:
Date........Odometer.......Dollars.......Amount
May14/06....72,128.9mi.....$19.70(Cdn)...5.34 gal
and so on for each and every fillup.

EVERY fillup is to completely full, to at least two pump shutoffs.

So, here are some figures for our '99 Tercel (the book I happen to have
handy at the moment:
Feb 18-May14: 2,691.11 miles, 88.59 gallons = 30.38mpg.

Ah, but it gets interesting! Watch this:
Feb18-Mar25: 933 miles, 33.54 gallons = 27.81. Winter is bad for mileage!
Mar25-May14: 1,758 miles, 55.05 gallons = 31.93. That warm weather we had!

Now the very last fillup (only one entry):
May12-May14: 190.2 miles, 5.34 gallons: 35.58mpg.
One fillup is not trustworthy, so this one obviously contains an anomaly of
some sort that will get evened out in subsequent fillups.

Now, there's a confounding factor besides temperature and type of driving,
and that's octane. Every fillup except the last was with 91 pump octane.
From now on, we're using 87. With my '91 Integra, I've discovered that
using premium costs me about 2% in mileage. Don't know now whether the
Tercel will be the same.


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Old 17 May 2006, 09:02 pm
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"TeGGeR«" wrote

> Nobody I personally know does actual recording of fill amount and mileage
> covered, and does this with EVERY fillup for the whole year. Nobody.


We've never met, no. ;-) I never KEPT records, but for the first couple
years I divided the miles on the trip odometer (to one decimal place, and
always reset after filling up) and divided that figure by the gallons used
(per the receipt, to three decimal places). During the first few months it
recorded around 26, but since then my '04 4-cyl Accord auto regularly posts
27-28 mpg driving mostly "around town." FWIW, I live in southern Arizona,
where it's f****** hot.



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Old 17 May 2006, 09:38 pm
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"Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
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> "TeGGeR«" wrote
>
> > Nobody I personally know does actual recording of fill amount and
> > mileage
>> covered, and does this with EVERY fillup for the whole year. Nobody.

>
> We've never met, no. ;-) I never KEPT records, but for the first couple
> years I divided the miles on the trip odometer (to one decimal place, and
> always reset after filling up) and divided that figure by the gallons used
> (per the receipt, to three decimal places). During the first few months
> it recorded around 26, but since then my '04 4-cyl Accord auto regularly
> posts 27-28 mpg driving mostly "around town." FWIW, I live in southern
> Arizona, where it's f****** hot.


I've been doing this for years as well, with a few different cars. It's
just been a habbit, although I don't write down the cost of the fill-up. If
the person really wanted to be "anal" about it, they would go as far as
using the same pump at the same gas station each time!

Mileage dips in the winter here in MD. Different fuel formulation, colder
engine which takes longer to warm up so idle can drop, etc.

My '05 Accord manual varies from about 26-29 mpg, depending if it's more
city or highway driving. The 2 trips with almost all highway driving was
33-34 mpg. Could have done better but that would have upset the drivers
behind me.

-Dave


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Old 17 May 2006, 10:00 pm
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"Dave L" wrote in message...
> My '05 Accord manual varies from about 26-29 mpg, depending if it's more
> city or highway driving. The 2 trips with almost all highway driving was
> 33-34 mpg. Could have done better but that would have upset the drivers
> behind me.


I don't keep records, but I like doing math in my head, so I can easily
figure out to within less than 1mpg every time I fill the tank. My '02
Accord LX coupe w/ manual averages around 30-32 city/commuting (I typically
fill up after the low-fuel light comes on, putting in around 14 gallons at
between 400-450 miles), worst is around 26-27mpg in winter commuting, best
is 40mpg on extended highway trips - I've done this at least twice while
averaging around 68mph for an 850-mile trip (yes, this means I was cruising
70-75mph for most of the trip), with A/C on and the car loaded down pretty
good with luggage. Since those figures were seemingly high, I
double-checked them with a calculator to be sure. :■

I've heard stories in the past of folks getting phenomenol MPG at
super-legal speeds with small 4-cyl. cars. I recall an internet posting
years ago about a fellow that drove something like 90-100mph across Canada
on an extended trip with a Mitsu Eclipse (or maybe it was a Laser) and got
well into the 30+mpg (U.S., not Imperial) range.

When I had my truck, I'd take occasional trips into the mountains. MPG
would be unusually high for the first tankful or two because the truck would
run lean in the thin mountain air - we're talking 23-24mpg with a V8
Dakota...


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Old 17 May 2006, 11:05 pm
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 01:44:34 +0000 (UTC), "TeGGeR«"
<tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in
>news:AiKag.3434$y4.906@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>
>> I have been thinking about getting an Element and will ask owners once
>> in while how they like it.
>>
>> One guy said he was getting 25mpg on the highway and 21mpg in the
>> city. But the latest was a guy who had a 2003. He said he was
>> getting 31mpg on the highway and 28 in the city. Seems a little high.
>>
>>

>
>
>Answer: Nobody really knows.
>
>Nobody I personally know does actual recording of fill amount and mileage
>covered, and does this with EVERY fillup for the whole year. Nobody.


I do.

>And without the data thus generated, EVERYbody is guessing as to their real
>mileage.
>
>I record for both our cars in a book, in this manner:
>Date........Odometer.......Dollars.......Amount
>May14/06....72,128.9mi.....$19.70(Cdn)...5.34 gal
>and so on for each and every fillup.
>
>EVERY fillup is to completely full, to at least two pump shutoffs.
>
>So, here are some figures for our '99 Tercel (the book I happen to have
>handy at the moment:
>Feb 18-May14: 2,691.11 miles, 88.59 gallons = 30.38mpg.
>
>Ah, but it gets interesting! Watch this:
>Feb18-Mar25: 933 miles, 33.54 gallons = 27.81. Winter is bad for mileage!
>Mar25-May14: 1,758 miles, 55.05 gallons = 31.93. That warm weather we had!
>
>Now the very last fillup (only one entry):
>May12-May14: 190.2 miles, 5.34 gallons: 35.58mpg.
>One fillup is not trustworthy, so this one obviously contains an anomaly of
>some sort that will get evened out in subsequent fillups.
>
>Now, there's a confounding factor besides temperature and type of driving,
>and that's octane. Every fillup except the last was with 91 pump octane.
>From now on, we're using 87. With my '91 Integra, I've discovered that
>using premium costs me about 2% in mileage. Don't know now whether the
>Tercel will be the same.


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Old 18 May 2006, 06:08 am
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TeGGeR« wrote:

> Nobody I personally know does actual recording of fill amount and mileage
> covered, and does this with EVERY fillup for the whole year. Nobody.


I have the EXACT gas fill info for EVERY tank full on my '92 Accord (LX
two door,5 speed, White/Blue) since new. I taught myself to use Excel to
put the info in a yearly table. bob
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