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Old 06 May 2006, 12:10 am
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Default Changing Automatic to Standard in Honda Accord

I have HOnda accord EXR w/ automatic

I am looking at swapping it out for a standard gearbox and clutch. However,
it is from a LX model.

Both are 1994. Will the swap fit? What is involved? Do I need extra boths
not on the scrapped vehicle? Rough time involved?

thanks


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Old 06 May 2006, 10:07 am
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Default Re: Changing Automatic to Standard in Honda Accord

You need to buy another Honda Accord (parts car)standard shift in order to
have enought parts. Not worth the time or trouble!

Tom


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>I have HOnda accord EXR w/ automatic
>
> I am looking at swapping it out for a standard gearbox and clutch.
> However, it is from a LX model.
>
> Both are 1994. Will the swap fit? What is involved? Do I need extra boths
> not on the scrapped vehicle? Rough time involved?
>
> thanks
>



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Old 06 May 2006, 11:05 pm
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Default Re: Changing Automatic to Standard in Honda Accord

that is exactly what I have

time involved?
"twfsa" <twfuksa@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> You need to buy another Honda Accord (parts car)standard shift in order to
> have enought parts. Not worth the time or trouble!
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e3hb50$qeo$1@news.datemas.de...
>>I have HOnda accord EXR w/ automatic
>>
>> I am looking at swapping it out for a standard gearbox and clutch.
>> However, it is from a LX model.
>>
>> Both are 1994. Will the swap fit? What is involved? Do I need extra boths
>> not on the scrapped vehicle? Rough time involved?
>>
>> thanks
>>

>
>



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Old 07 May 2006, 10:09 am
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Default Re: Changing Automatic to Standard in Honda Accord

That depends on you, do you have tools? Are you mechanically inclined, I
would say it on a scale of 1-10 as one being the easiest its a 9 or 10 job,
even if you have the tools, It may involve removing the engine and automatic
trans as a unit to do the swap. now to answer your question if you have the
tools and basic knowledge I would say its a good 2 day if not longer.

Tom


"Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> that is exactly what I have
>
> time involved?
> "twfsa" <twfuksa@qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:xY27g.57430$IZ2.23995@dukeread07...
>> You need to buy another Honda Accord (parts car)standard shift in order
>> to have enought parts. Not worth the time or trouble!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e3hb50$qeo$1@news.datemas.de...
>>>I have HOnda accord EXR w/ automatic
>>>
>>> I am looking at swapping it out for a standard gearbox and clutch.
>>> However, it is from a LX model.
>>>
>>> Both are 1994. Will the swap fit? What is involved? Do I need extra
>>> boths not on the scrapped vehicle? Rough time involved?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 07 May 2006, 10:18 am
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"Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have HOnda accord EXR w/ automatic
>
> I am looking at swapping it out for a standard gearbox and clutch.
> However, it is from a LX model.
>
> Both are 1994. Will the swap fit? What is involved? Do I need extra boths
> not on the scrapped vehicle? Rough time involved?
>
> thanks
>

Don't forget the electronics and the clutch hydraulics / pedal. This was
recently discussed and the project has a whole bunch of by-the-ways... I
doubt we even identified them all because the OP decided against it.
Possible to do, but I'd just sell the auto and buy the stick. Much easier,
probably cheaper, and you won't have a bastardized car. I know I'd never
touch a vehicle that had undergone such a Frankenstein operation.

Mike


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Old 07 May 2006, 11:47 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> "Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e3hb50$qeo$1@news.datemas.de...
>>I have HOnda accord EXR w/ automatic
>>
>> I am looking at swapping it out for a standard gearbox and clutch.
>> However, it is from a LX model.
>>
>> Both are 1994. Will the swap fit? What is involved? Do I need extra boths
>> not on the scrapped vehicle? Rough time involved?
>>
>> thanks
>>

> Don't forget the electronics and the clutch hydraulics / pedal. This was
> recently discussed and the project has a whole bunch of by-the-ways... I
> doubt we even identified them all because the OP decided against it.
> Possible to do, but I'd just sell the auto and buy the stick. Much easier,
> probably cheaper, and you won't have a bastardized car. I know I'd never
> touch a vehicle that had undergone such a Frankenstein operation.
>


It is going to be done, that is not an option.
I will be having a certified mechanic to perform this job. I have a Honda
Accord exr Vtec......mint, loaded and not a easy find w/ low k's.
I have the same car in LX 5 sp standard. My automatic is not performing
properly, so I'm doing the switch.

I wanted an idea on 1)lenth of time so I don't get ripped of by mechanic 2)
will I need any extra parts even having a whole cars for parts 3) will the
swap go well if the mechanic knows his stuff?

thanks


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Old 07 May 2006, 03:53 pm
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"Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> It is going to be done, that is not an option.
> I will be having a certified mechanic to perform this job. I have a Honda
> Accord exr Vtec......mint, loaded and not a easy find w/ low k's.
> I have the same car in LX 5 sp standard. My automatic is not performing
> properly, so I'm doing the switch.
>
> I wanted an idea on 1)lenth of time so I don't get ripped of by mechanic
> 2) will I need any extra parts even having a whole cars for parts 3) will
> the swap go well if the mechanic knows his stuff?
>
> thanks
>

Actually, I think you're pretty much the guinea pig on this. Please keep us
up to date as it goes along, because after it's done it is hard to remember
what went well, what didn't, and the important lessons learned along the
way.

Mike


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Old 08 May 2006, 12:31 am
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>>

> Actually, I think you're pretty much the guinea pig on this. Please keep
> us up to date as it goes along, because after it's done it is hard to
> remember what went well, what didn't, and the important lessons learned
> along the way.


I think you have alot to learn when it comes to swaps. I've did it
previously, just not w/ an accord.

When it's done, I perhaps you may learn something.


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Old 08 May 2006, 08:23 pm
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"Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:uZSdnR1nnpqmw8PZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>>

>> Actually, I think you're pretty much the guinea pig on this. Please keep
>> us up to date as it goes along, because after it's done it is hard to
>> remember what went well, what didn't, and the important lessons learned
>> along the way.

>
> I think you have alot to learn when it comes to swaps. I've did it
> previously, just not w/ an accord.
>
> When it's done, I perhaps you may learn something.
>

I hope it goes as smoothly as you foresee. I know I've had at least one car
(a '84 Nissan 300ZX) that would have required a different ECU and a pair of
different security modules just to start the engine if the tranny were
changed. The connectors on the security modules weren't even the same. Maybe
the Honda isn't as intensive.

Mike


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Old 09 May 2006, 06:10 am
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Default Re: Changing Automatic to Standard in Honda Accord

I forgot about the computer thats another problem.

Tom


"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
>> news:uZSdnR1nnpqmw8PZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>>> "Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocate66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e3l8bg$4vg$1@news.datemas.de...

>>
>>>>
>>> Actually, I think you're pretty much the guinea pig on this. Please keep
>>> us up to date as it goes along, because after it's done it is hard to
>>> remember what went well, what didn't, and the important lessons learned
>>> along the way.

>>
>> I think you have alot to learn when it comes to swaps. I've did it
>> previously, just not w/ an accord.
>>
>> When it's done, I perhaps you may learn something.
>>

> I hope it goes as smoothly as you foresee. I know I've had at least one
> car (a '84 Nissan 300ZX) that would have required a different ECU and a
> pair of different security modules just to start the engine if the tranny
> were changed. The connectors on the security modules weren't even the
> same. Maybe the Honda isn't as intensive.
>
> Mike
>



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