Honda Car Forum

lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:16:50 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
>
>
> I would not anticipate a problem with the front wheels off the ground.
> It's trickier with four-down towing because of front wheel drive or
> AWD. Plus, you don't want to be racking up miles on the odometer while
> you're towing.
>
Not sure, but I'd think the odo would not run up with ignition off, at least on
the non-mechanical ones.

I tow my 2003 CR-V four down. No problem, and it's OK to do in the manual.

Check with Honda to see if the '06 is the same.

Never try to back up!

Run engine to recharge batteries every 8 hours of towing.

Shift from DR to NEUTRAL before towing!

Other questions: The car follows the RV very well, little or no "scuffing"
if turns are made wile moving. I don't even know it's back there and have to
be careful when passing other vehicles.

Costs me about 1 to 2 MPG, and have to give a little more room to stop.




"flobert" <nomail@here.NOT> wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:39:06 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0400, flobert <nomail@here.NOT> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:02:04 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>>>that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>>>towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>>>the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>>>
>>>Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>>>able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>>>bar. Thanks...
>>
>>Why not use a cradle, or trailer? Surely would be easier on the
>>vehicle.
>>
>
>With trailers or dollys attached to a Class A or C RV, backing up is
>extremely difficult.

Then take some lessons, and practice. Dunno why there seems to be this
prevelent attitude in the US against taking a smarter option if it
means taking some lessons - I've seen it happen in lots of areas.

> Then there's the problem of having to manually
>wrestle with it because tight camp sites don't allow sufficient room
>to back up. Plus many camp sites only allow room for the RV and one
>vehicle, so a trailer would have to be parked elsewhere.

Or, gee, I dunno, we used to just pick ours up and put it on its
sidelean it aginst the RV, not a problem. And this was a big one, for
towing 2-3 ton of Millitary vehicle.


i have always wondered about flat-towing, and reversing though, mainly
because i've never seen it done anywhere except the US (and I've only
been here 3 years). Does seem overly harsh no the vehicle, and i am
wondering how steering control is done (so as not to scrub hell out of
the front wheels) - this would natually relate to backing up and where
the pivot point(s) would be located.

"d_waite" <d_waite@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>I tow my 2003 CR-V four down. No problem, and it's OK to do in the manual.
>
> Check with Honda to see if the '06 is the same.
>
> Never try to back up!

Reversing is as easy as going forward, for people with dexterity, skill
and ability.

> Run engine to recharge batteries every 8 hours of towing.

Why recharge the battery? It wouldn't be any different than having the
towed vehicle sitting in a driveway overnight.

> Shift from DR to NEUTRAL before towing!

A very obvious statment. How many people tow vehicles in Drive or Park?
Perhaps remind people to release the parking brake, while you're at it.

> Other questions: The car follows the RV very well, little or no
> "scuffing"
> if turns are made wile moving. I don't even know it's back there and have
> to
> be careful when passing other vehicles.

Most vehicles and trailers give little indication of being behind the
towing vehicle when everything is correctly hooked up.

> Costs me about 1 to 2 MPG, and have to give a little more room to stop.

A minor expense and common sense.

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:59:42 GMT, "d_waite" <d_waite@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>I tow my 2003 CR-V four down. No problem, and it's OK to do in the manual.
>
>Check with Honda to see if the '06 is the same.
>
>Never try to back up!
>

Do you say this due to the difficulty of backing up or because of the
possibility of damage to the CR-V transmission and/or AWD? Also, what
type of tow bar do you use?


>Run engine to recharge batteries every 8 hours of towing.
>
>Shift from DR to NEUTRAL before towing!
>
>Other questions: The car follows the RV very well, little or no "scuffing"
>if turns are made wile moving. I don't even know it's back there and have to
>be careful when passing other vehicles.
>
>Costs me about 1 to 2 MPG, and have to give a little more room to stop.
>
>

I found out recently that Motorhome Magazine runs an annual list of
autos, trucks, and suv's that are capable of being towed. The 2006
CR-V was the only Honda on the most recent list. I did not check
previous lists. Thanks for respsonding with your experiences.




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Brian,

1. Have you ever towed four down? Try backing up a tow vehicle when the
towed vehicle is on all four wheels. Let me know how you do!

2. The ignition switch has to be in the "#2" position so the steering wheel
lock is off. This discharges the battery! Do you leave the ignition switch
on, with the vehicle in neutral over night?

3. If the transmission is shifted from R to N, the transmission will be
damaged. I don't know why, but have never tried it!

4. Yes, towing involves common sense. I hope you never have to tow
anything.

4. Thank you for your reply, I hope you have learned to think before you
reply to things you know nothing about.


"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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"d_waite" <d_waite@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>I tow my 2003 CR-V four down. No problem, and it's OK to do in the manual.
>
> Check with Honda to see if the '06 is the same.
>
> Never try to back up!

Reversing is as easy as going forward, for people with dexterity, skill
and ability.

> Run engine to recharge batteries every 8 hours of towing.

Why recharge the battery? It wouldn't be any different than having the
towed vehicle sitting in a driveway overnight.

> Shift from DR to NEUTRAL before towing!

A very obvious statment. How many people tow vehicles in Drive or Park?
Perhaps remind people to release the parking brake, while you're at it.

> Other questions: The car follows the RV very well, little or no
> "scuffing"
> if turns are made wile moving. I don't even know it's back there and have
> to
> be careful when passing other vehicles.

Most vehicles and trailers give little indication of being behind the
towing vehicle when everything is correctly hooked up.

> Costs me about 1 to 2 MPG, and have to give a little more room to stop.

A minor expense and common sense.

Backing up a vehicle that is four down will harm the front end of the car.
I don't think it's possible to back it far enough to hurt the transmission.
(I never have tried.)

I have a Blue Ox tow bar, goggle "Blue Ox" tells you everything you need to
know. Note: When I purchased the baseplate for my CR-V, Blue Ox called me
twice to ask if everything went well installing it. Very nice people to
work with!!!

Only one problem, I did have to upgrade the hitch pins.
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From: lanman
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Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Hondas capable of being towed


On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:59:42 GMT, "d_waite" <d_waite@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>I tow my 2003 CR-V four down. No problem, and it's OK to do in the
manual.
>
>Check with Honda to see if the '06 is the same.
>
>Never try to back up!
>

Do you say this due to the difficulty of backing up or because of the
possibility of damage to the CR-V transmission and/or AWD? Also, what
type of tow bar do you use?


>Run engine to recharge batteries every 8 hours of towing.
>
>Shift from DR to NEUTRAL before towing!
>
>Other questions: The car follows the RV very well, little or no
"scuffing"
>if turns are made wile moving. I don't even know it's back there and have
to
>be careful when passing other vehicles.
>
>Costs me about 1 to 2 MPG, and have to give a little more room to stop.
>
>

I found out recently that Motorhome Magazine runs an annual list of
autos, trucks, and suv's that are capable of being towed. The 2006
CR-V was the only Honda on the most recent list. I did not check
previous lists. Thanks for respsonding with your experiences.




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"d_waite" <d_waite@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Brian,
>
> 1. Have you ever towed four down? Try backing up a tow vehicle when the
> towed vehicle is on all four wheels. Let me know how you do!

Yes I have. No problems.

> 2. The ignition switch has to be in the "#2" position so the steering
> wheel
> lock is off. This discharges the battery! Do you leave the ignition
> switch
> on, with the vehicle in neutral over night?

It would be easier to disconnect the battery when the key is left in the
ignition switch for towing, than charging the battery needlessly.

> 3. If the transmission is shifted from R to N, the transmission will be
> damaged. I don't know why, but have never tried it!

What's your point?

> 4. Yes, towing involves common sense. I hope you never have to tow
> anything.

I don't tow anything very often, just fifty three foot trailers and
Super B Trains.

> 4. Thank you for your reply, I hope you have learned to think before you
> reply to things you know nothing about.

Well, you're pretty much out to lunch with those comments. {;^)

lanman wrote:

> I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
> that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
> towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
> the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>
> Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
> able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
> bar. Thanks...

Once you buy the car it's your car you can do with it, as you please.

Honda is not in the business of testing their products for use with uncontrolled
aftermarket devices. The exception was the CR-v. And, in the end it was learned that
customers would not follow the procedures 100% of the time. That one time they fail to
do so; boom! goes automatic transmission.

Tow dolly or trailer is best; second best is manual trans. As I recall the BlueOx
company has just what you need to tow a CR-v...



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what kind of honda are you thinking about buying
"lanman" <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:10:53 GMT, TomP <-roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>lanman wrote:
>>
>>> I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>>> that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>>> towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>>> the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>>>
>>> Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>>> able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>>> bar. Thanks...
>>
>>Once you buy the car it's your car you can do with it, as you please.
>>
>>Honda is not in the business of testing their products for use with
>>uncontrolled
>>aftermarket devices.
>
> Perhaps true - but until such time as car manufacturers make cars that
> never break down, then every car manufacturer must provide
> instructions on how their vehicles may be safely towed.
>
> The exception was the CR-v.
>
> Of course this begs the question - why the CR-V and no others? With so
> many cars sharing platforms now, there would seem to be a possibility
> that there might be others.
>
>
> And, in the end it was learned that
>>customers would not follow the procedures 100% of the time. That one time
>>they fail to
>>do so; boom! goes automatic transmission.
>>
>>Tow dolly or trailer is best; second best is manual trans. As I recall
>>the BlueOx
>>company has just what you need to tow a CR-v...
>
> Thanks. I'll check them out.

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:10:53 GMT, TomP <-roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>lanman wrote:
>
>> I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>> that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>> towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>> the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>>
>> Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>> able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>> bar. Thanks...
>
>Once you buy the car it's your car you can do with it, as you please.
>
>Honda is not in the business of testing their products for use with uncontrolled
>aftermarket devices.

Perhaps true - but until such time as car manufacturers make cars that
never break down, then every car manufacturer must provide
instructions on how their vehicles may be safely towed.

The exception was the CR-v.

Of course this begs the question - why the CR-V and no others? With so
many cars sharing platforms now, there would seem to be a possibility
that there might be others.


And, in the end it was learned that
>customers would not follow the procedures 100% of the time. That one time they fail to
>do so; boom! goes automatic transmission.
>
>Tow dolly or trailer is best; second best is manual trans. As I recall the BlueOx
>company has just what you need to tow a CR-v...

Thanks. I'll check them out.