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Old 25 Apr 2006, 06:59 am
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Default Is Honda's Dual Pump fluid fine for older cars?

I've always used Dexron II and Dexron III AT fluid (like the factory manual
calls for) in my '88 Accord and I've never had any shifting problems to speak
of....even after 239,000 miles. I'm seriously thinking about using the Dual
Pump fluid the next time since it has additional lubricants compared to
Dexron III.

I can't imagine it causing problems but I just wanted to make sure beforehand.


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Old 25 Apr 2006, 08:19 am
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In article <5f4d9f63e48ba@uwe>, Headknocker via CarKB.com <u18602@uwe>
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> I've always used Dexron II and Dexron III AT fluid (like the factory manual
> calls for) in my '88 Accord and I've never had any shifting problems to speak
> of....even after 239,000 miles. I'm seriously thinking about using the Dual
> Pump fluid the next time since it has additional lubricants compared to
> Dexron III.
>
> I can't imagine it causing problems but I just wanted to make sure beforehand.
>
>
> Thanks.


If you are refering to the Honda branded transmission fluid, I changed
from Dextron ll at 95,000 mi. I have a 90 Accord. That was a week ago
and it seems to shift more smoothly. I had to change shops and they
put it in with out even asking. They said Honda recomended it.

Bob
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 08:39 am
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Apple Dumpling wrote:
>> I've always used Dexron II and Dexron III AT fluid (like the factory manual
>> calls for) in my '88 Accord and I've never had any shifting problems to speak

>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> Thanks.

>
>If you are refering to the Honda branded transmission fluid, I changed
>from Dextron ll at 95,000 mi. I have a 90 Accord. That was a week ago
>and it seems to shift more smoothly. I had to change shops and they
>put it in with out even asking. They said Honda recomended it.
>
>Bob


Thanks Bob.

I should clarify. I hadn't had any shifting problems during the first 239,000
miles( which I passed around a month ago) but I've lost power twice in the
last three weeks and it has me concerned. If I move the shifter around it
eventually comes out of it and I'm good to go. With Honda's extra lubricants
I'm hoping these episodes will cease.

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Old 25 Apr 2006, 09:07 am
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"Headknocker via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> I've always used Dexron II and Dexron III AT fluid (like the factory manual
> calls for) in my '88 Accord and I've never had any shifting problems to speak
> of....even after 239,000 miles. I'm seriously thinking about using the Dual
> Pump fluid the next time since it has additional lubricants compared to
> Dexron III.
>
> I can't imagine it causing problems but I just wanted to make sure beforehand.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Dual Pump Fluid is for the Rear Differential of the CR-V and the Element
and the HR-V. You need Z1 ATF. Not sure why you used Dexron, But you'll
find a big difference when you drain-n-fill your '88 Twice, or more,
with Z1. It's the correct fluid for the job.

'Curly'
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 09:28 am
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"Headknocker via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> I've always used Dexron II and Dexron III AT fluid (like the factory manual
> calls for) in my '88 Accord and I've never had any shifting problems to speak
> of....even after 239,000 miles. I'm seriously thinking about using the Dual
> Pump fluid the next time since it has additional lubricants compared to
> Dexron III.
>
> I can't imagine it causing problems but I just wanted to make sure beforehand.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Dual Pump Fluid is for the Rear Differential of the CR-V and the Element
and the HR-V. You need Honda Z1 ATF.

Not sure why you used Dexron (I'd be curious to see a Honda factory
manual that says you can use Dexron for anything other than TEMPORARY
service).

You'll find a big difference when you drain-n-fill your '88 twice, or
more, with Honda Z1. It's the correct fluid for the job. It might even
fix your problems, but I expect you've reamed out the friction surfaces
because Dexron doesn't have the friction modifiers that a Honda tranny
needs.

'Curly'
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 09:54 am
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'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
>> I've always used Dexron II and Dexron III AT fluid (like the factory manual
>> calls for) in my '88 Accord and I've never had any shifting problems to speak

>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> Thanks.

>
>---------------------------------------
>
>Dual Pump Fluid is for the Rear Differential of the CR-V and the Element
>and the HR-V. You need Honda Z1 ATF.
>
>Not sure why you used Dexron (I'd be curious to see a Honda factory
>manual that says you can use Dexron for anything other than TEMPORARY
>service).
>
>You'll find a big difference when you drain-n-fill your '88 twice, or
>more, with Honda Z1. It's the correct fluid for the job. It might even
>fix your problems, but I expect you've reamed out the friction surfaces
>because Dexron doesn't have the friction modifiers that a Honda tranny
>needs.
>
>'Curly'


Curly,

Thanks for the correction. I was getting the two mixed up since I also have a
'98 CRV.

Like I said, the Honda Factory Service manual recommended Dexron at the time
without any mention of a Honda fluid. I'm looking at it right now in my '88
Accord Service manual. It's right there in the maintenance section on page 4-
4 and also on page 15-16 in the Auto Trans section.

I plan to drain the fluid twice(in a week span) to get as much Honda ATF in
there as possible.

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Old 25 Apr 2006, 12:02 pm
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In article <5f4f25cdbff15@uwe>, Headknocker via CarKB.com <u18602@uwe>
wrote:

> 'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> >> I've always used Dexron II and Dexron III AT fluid (like the factory manual
> >> calls for) in my '88 Accord and I've never had any shifting problems to
> >> speak

> >[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >>
> >> Thanks.

> >
> >---------------------------------------
> >
> >Dual Pump Fluid is for the Rear Differential of the CR-V and the Element
> >and the HR-V. You need Honda Z1 ATF.
> >
> >Not sure why you used Dexron (I'd be curious to see a Honda factory
> >manual that says you can use Dexron for anything other than TEMPORARY
> >service).
> >
> >You'll find a big difference when you drain-n-fill your '88 twice, or
> >more, with Honda Z1. It's the correct fluid for the job. It might even
> >fix your problems, but I expect you've reamed out the friction surfaces
> >because Dexron doesn't have the friction modifiers that a Honda tranny
> >needs.
> >
> >'Curly'

>
> Curly,
>
> Thanks for the correction. I was getting the two mixed up since I also have a
> '98 CRV.
>
> Like I said, the Honda Factory Service manual recommended Dexron at the time
> without any mention of a Honda fluid. I'm looking at it right now in my '88
> Accord Service manual. It's right there in the maintenance section on page 4-
> 4 and also on page 15-16 in the Auto Trans section.
>
> I plan to drain the fluid twice(in a week span) to get as much Honda ATF in
> there as possible.


My 15 tear old manual says Dextron ll for my 90 Accord but the mech
said not any more and to use the Honda stuff.

Bob
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