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Old 22 Mar 2006, 05:07 am
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Default 1994 Accord. Engine surging

94 Accord 2.0i. Engine is surging between 1000rpm and 2000rpm when
stationary or the clutch is dipped when driving. Engine light has not
come on and there appear to be no fault codes present. Otherwise, the
car drives perfectly ok.

Any suggestions? Failing lambda sensor perhaps?

Please help....this is the mother in law's car and it would make my
life much more peaceful as well as earning major brownie points with
the wife!!

Matt
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Old 22 Mar 2006, 06:36 am
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"." <sailaway18@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 94 Accord 2.0i. Engine is surging between 1000rpm and 2000rpm when
> stationary or the clutch is dipped when driving. Engine light has not
> come on and there appear to be no fault codes present. Otherwise, the
> car drives perfectly ok.
>
> Any suggestions? Failing lambda sensor perhaps?
>
> Please help....this is the mother in law's car and it would make my
> life much more peaceful as well as earning major brownie points with
> the wife!!
>
> Matt


Check the coolant level in the radiator with the engine cold. If it is low
the sensors drive the ECU nuts and the idle hunts. If the level is low, you
have a leak hunt ahead of you. The radiator is probably like the one in my
daughter's '93; it has a flat spot on top where a brace crosses. Look for a
crosswise hairline crack there where the flat spot flexes.

Mike


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Old 22 Mar 2006, 09:05 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> "." <sailaway18@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1mb222lgbg6v2talpcke75574tmb3fvh53@4ax.com...
>> 94 Accord 2.0i. Engine is surging between 1000rpm and 2000rpm when
>> stationary or the clutch is dipped when driving. Engine light has not
>> come on and there appear to be no fault codes present. Otherwise, the
>> car drives perfectly ok.
>>
>> Any suggestions? Failing lambda sensor perhaps?
>>
>> Please help....this is the mother in law's car and it would make my
>> life much more peaceful as well as earning major brownie points with
>> the wife!!
>>
>> Matt

>
> Check the coolant level in the radiator with the engine cold. If it is low
> the sensors drive the ECU nuts and the idle hunts. If the level is low,
> you have a leak hunt ahead of you. The radiator is probably like the one
> in my daughter's '93; it has a flat spot on top where a brace crosses.
> Look for a crosswise hairline crack there where the flat spot flexes.
>
> Mike


Mike,

Does this particular model also use an Idle Air Control Valve? Can a bad
IACV also produce this same type of idle surge?

Ron M.


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Old 22 Mar 2006, 10:17 am
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"Ron M." <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
>> "." <sailaway18@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> 94 Accord 2.0i. Engine is surging between 1000rpm and
>>> 2000rpm when
>>> stationary or the clutch is dipped when driving. Engine
>>> light has not
>>> come on and there appear to be no fault codes present.
>>> Otherwise, the
>>> car drives perfectly ok.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions? Failing lambda sensor perhaps?
>>>
>>> Please help....this is the mother in law's car and it
>>> would make my
>>> life much more peaceful as well as earning major brownie
>>> points with
>>> the wife!!
>>>
>>> Matt

>>
>> Check the coolant level in the radiator with the engine
>> cold. If it is low the sensors drive the ECU nuts and the
>> idle hunts. If the level is low, you have a leak hunt
>> ahead of you. The radiator is probably like the one in my
>> daughter's '93; it has a flat spot on top where a brace
>> crosses. Look for a crosswise hairline crack there where
>> the flat spot flexes.
>>
>> Mike

>
> Mike,
>
> Does this particular model also use an Idle Air Control
> Valve?


I am pretty sure it does, though it may be called an EAC
valve on this model.

> Can a bad IACV also produce this same type of idle surge?


I agree that's possible.

I concur with Mike's suggestion. In the same vein, do an air
purge of the cooling system; a thorough one, where the
radiator fan comes on twice (which may take 45 minutes of
idling, so be patient).

Also, the oxygen sensor is suspect, too, particularly if the
problem only occurs after the car is warmed up.


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Old 22 Mar 2006, 10:57 am
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Default Re: 1994 Accord. Engine surging

I had an earlier model Integra with a bad airflow regulator and it
would display similar results, though it mainly happened when the
engine was cold. The valve contained a "thermo-wax plunger" which had
become deffective, resulting in differences of airflow into the
injectors (or that's how it was described at least). As opposed to
slowly closing proportional to engine temperature, it was erradic.



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