Honda Car Forum

#31 (**permalink**) 25 Mar 2006, 04:57 pm

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-546D49.10341619032006@news.telus.net...
> In article <Xns978B6F1BA5A6Fthefrogprince@70.169.32.36>,
> "Larry J." <usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>
>> Waiving the right to remain silent, "Michael Pardee"
>> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> said:
>>
>> > "Scott en Aztl n" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:eauq12daod863v59037lqtfikof4n1gp6j@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >> So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>> >>
>> > Arizona, for one. Rust is unknown in the Phoenix area except in
>> > cars brought in from areas where roads are salted.
>>
>> Near Tucson, (and in nearby California deserts) there are a couple of
>> airplane graveyards, where thousands of planes sit, virtually rust-
>> free.
>
> How many of those planes are made of steel?

I lived in the SF bay area for 9 years. For the most part, cars with rust
were from out of state....like the one I brought in from NJ........

>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> "If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
> to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
> if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
>

#32 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 01:05 am

In article <Sw%Tf.15940$S25.9279@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:

> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:rPOdnQZMuO4ppoLZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
> > "Scott en Aztlán" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3qgs121k1rbrcarc93phsvialve32hrs86@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:05:22 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> >> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>Nissan wants no part of the Effective Horsepower program, claiming
> >>>>>rust is a localized problem, only occurring in the snow belt,
> >>>>>near ocean areas, and in places where it rains.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
> >>>
> >>>Arizona, for one.
> >>
> >> Sorry, it rains in Arizona.
> >> --
> >
> > Sure does, but without salt rust just doesn't appear except on the exhaust
> > system. I worked with a guy who restored old Fords (no accounting for
> > taste!) in Phoenix and sold them to out-of-staters. They were all from the
> > 50s and 60s and didn't have a trace of body rust, which made them very
> > desirable... although I never figured out the attraction for a car with
> > vacuum operated wipers and four wheel drum brakes.
> >
>
> I have a fond memory of my father out in the pouring rain, cutting off the
> end of the vaccuum hose connected to the wipers in a 57 Ford wagon, so he
> could get them working again.

I have a less-than-fond memory of hanging my arm out the passenger side
window of a mid-60's Falcon and manually working the wipers as we
travelled down I-75 from Cincinnati to Lexington.

#33 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 07:32 am

"Sean Elkins" <sean_elkins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sean_elkins-7795D4.01054026032006@news.iglou.com...
> In article <Sw%Tf.15940$S25.9279@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
>> news:rPOdnQZMuO4ppoLZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> > "Scott en Aztlán" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3qgs121k1rbrcarc93phsvialve32hrs86@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:05:22 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
>> >> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>>Nissan wants no part of the Effective Horsepower program, claiming
>> >>>>>rust is a localized problem, only occurring in the snow belt,
>> >>>>>near ocean areas, and in places where it rains.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>> >>>
>> >>>Arizona, for one.
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, it rains in Arizona.
>> >> --
>> >
>> > Sure does, but without salt rust just doesn't appear except on the
>> > exhaust
>> > system. I worked with a guy who restored old Fords (no accounting for
>> > taste!) in Phoenix and sold them to out-of-staters. They were all from
>> > the
>> > 50s and 60s and didn't have a trace of body rust, which made them very
>> > desirable... although I never figured out the attraction for a car with
>> > vacuum operated wipers and four wheel drum brakes.
>> >
>>
>> I have a fond memory of my father out in the pouring rain, cutting off
>> the
>> end of the vaccuum hose connected to the wipers in a 57 Ford wagon, so he
>> could get them working again.
>
> I have a less-than-fond memory of hanging my arm out the passenger side
> window of a mid-60's Falcon and manually working the wipers as we
> travelled down I-75 from Cincinnati to Lexington.

Hey, that was my car....oops, sorry, mine was a Comet......

#34 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 09:04 am

In article <HRvVf.7780$%m4.6085@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> ,
alpertl@xxsbcglobal.net says...
> I have a less-than-fond memory of hanging my arm out the passenger side
> > window of a mid-60's Falcon and manually working the wipers as we
> > travelled down I-75 from Cincinnati to Lexington.
>
> Hey, that was my car....oops, sorry, mine was a Comet......
>
>

I had a '67 Comet. I was watching "Overhaulin'" the other night, the one
about the late 60's GTO, and started wishing I still had the Comet.
Wasn't a great car, just liked the body style. Plus I owned it while
going to college.

Al

#35 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 09:27 am

Steve Baker wrote:
> In article <HRvVf.7780$%m4.6085@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> ,
> alpertl@xxsbcglobal.net says...
>> I have a less-than-fond memory of hanging my arm out the passenger side
>>> window of a mid-60's Falcon and manually working the wipers as we
>>> travelled down I-75 from Cincinnati to Lexington.
>> Hey, that was my car....oops, sorry, mine was a Comet......
>>
>>
>
> I had a '67 Comet. I was watching "Overhaulin'" the other night, the one
> about the late 60's GTO, and started wishing I still had the Comet.
> Wasn't a great car, just liked the body style. Plus I owned it while
> going to college.
>
> Al

The best looking car I ever owned, and wished I had kept, was a 1957
Ford Fairlane 500 convertible with the 312 V8, 4 bbl carb. As a matter
of fact, I consider all the 57s, from any US manufacturer, as the last
of the good looking US cars, fins and all.

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY

#36 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 11:02 am

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:27:52 -0500, willshak <willshak@hvc.rr.com>
wrote:

> The best looking car I ever owned, and wished I had kept, was a 1957
>Ford Fairlane 500 convertible with the 312 V8, 4 bbl carb. As a matter
>of fact, I consider all the 57s, from any US manufacturer, as the last
>of the good looking US cars, fins and all.

I think the 60 Chrysler/DeSoto qualifies as a good looking fin car.
And the 62 Cadillac. But all 58-59 fin cars are mediocre or terrible.

#37 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 11:21 am

Brent P wrote:
> In article <eauq12daod863v59037lqtfikof4n1gp6j@4ax.com>, Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>
>
>>Actually, Mazda (which is owned by Ford) did something similar when
>>they introduced the RX-8, downrating its horsepower to 238 and
>>offering to buy back vehciles from anyone who felt ripped off. And
>>don't forget the big debacle over the 1999 Cobra, which was discovered
>>after owners tested their cars on dynamometers. Ford took so long to
>>find a fix that they cancelled production on the 2000 Cobras. They
>>eventually had to replace exhaust systems and other parts in every
>>1999 Cobra they produced in order to actually achieve the advertised
>>horsepower.
>
>
> I expect very little coverage of this latest issue with the japanese
> makes compared with what ford got on the '99 Cobra. Thing is the article
> described actual cheating while the Cobra issue seemed more or less the
> difference between prototype and production.
>
> The import double standard assures that Ford and GM are duely punished
> for such things while for the japanese makes it's some obscure mention
> that is caught by a few car guys.
>
>
Do you think the guy who's buying the 99 Cobra is paying as much
attention to the HP figures as the guy who's buying the Camry or Accord?

CD

#38 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 03:46 pm

"edward ohare" <edward_ohare@nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:27:52 -0500, willshak <willshak@hvc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> The best looking car I ever owned, and wished I had kept, was a 1957
>>Ford Fairlane 500 convertible with the 312 V8, 4 bbl carb. As a matter
>>of fact, I consider all the 57s, from any US manufacturer, as the last
>>of the good looking US cars, fins and all.
>
>
> I think the 60 Chrysler/DeSoto qualifies as a good looking fin car.
> And the 62 Cadillac. But all 58-59 fin cars are mediocre or terrible.

"58 eldorado was a nice car.

http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/cady5802.htm
http://www.misterw.com/Cadillac/58CadEldo06.html

#39 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 06:05 pm

"willshak" <willshak@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:122d976669e029f@news.supernews.com...
>
> The best looking car I ever owned, and wished I had kept, was a 1957 Ford
> Fairlane 500 convertible with the 312 V8, 4 bbl carb. As a matter of fact,
> I consider all the 57s, from any US manufacturer, as the last of the good
> looking US cars, fins and all.
>
> --
> Bill
> In Hamptonburgh, NY

I wonder why the US makers decided to go bonkers in the '58 MY and turn out
less desirable designs.

Mike

#40 (**permalink**) 26 Mar 2006, 06:24 pm

edward ohare wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:27:52 -0500, willshak <willshak@hvc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> The best looking car I ever owned, and wished I had kept, was a 1957
>>Ford Fairlane 500 convertible with the 312 V8, 4 bbl carb. As a matter
>>of fact, I consider all the 57s, from any US manufacturer, as the last
>>of the good looking US cars, fins and all.
>
>
>
> I think the 60 Chrysler/DeSoto qualifies as a good looking fin car.
> And the 62 Cadillac. But all 58-59 fin cars are mediocre or terrible.

Well, Studebaker kept the '57 style fin on the Hawk series all the way
through '61... they're a bit much, but not bad looking overall. I
certainly wouldn't kick a '61 Hawk out of my driveway for leaking oil,
esp. if it had a 4-speed.

nate

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