Honda Car Forum

In article <441ddce8$0$11105$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com >,
"dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:

> > After being caught redhanded overstating horsepower,
> > Hyundai paid cash compensation to over 800,000 owners. "Honda
> > and Toyota owners aren't like that", said Joseph Camel of the
> > Brand Research Institute. "They're pretty docile owner groups.
> > After all, they bought the idea that its normal maintenance to
> > automatically replace water pumps at 75,000 miles.
> >
>
> "Joseph Camel?" Joe Camel? R-i-i-g-ht.

Good catch.

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:05:22 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>>>Nissan wants no part of the Effective Horsepower program, claiming
>>>rust is a localized problem, only occurring in the snow belt,
>>>near ocean areas, and in places where it rains.
>>
>> So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>
>Arizona, for one.

Sorry, it rains in Arizona.
--
What the heck, I'll play too.
- Dave

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:27:28 -0600, "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:

>I don't know if anyone else picked up on it but the text at the link bears
>no relationship to what follows...

Well, there is SOME relationship. Some of the stuff in the post starts
out the same as a passage in the article, but quickly diverges in a
very amusing way.
--
What the heck, I'll play too.
- Dave

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:38:40 GMT, Bonehenge
<Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:27:28 -0600, "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
>>"Comments4u" <comments4u@nospam.mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:qkmf4fnjxw8u.nhfrtfauf1l4.dlg@40tude.net. ..
>>> Is that new Honda or Toyota less powerful than last years model?
>>> Well, yes, and no. The engines in the new models don't make
>>> any less power than last year's engines, even though the numbers
>>> on the specification page are lower. Its just that the
>>> Asians have been caught playing the loopholes in the standards,
>
>FWIW, My 2005 Tacoma has the same 236 HP V6 as the 2006. My 2005 was
>advertised as 250 HP.
>
>Who cares? What am I going to do buy a Colorado? That would be
>biting off my nose to spite my face! <G> My Tacoma is an outstanding
>truck,


Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but its kinda funny that at the
same time you admit you know virtually nothing about your truck, and
even scarier that you say you don't care.


> and I can't tell 236 from 250 when driving. My penis is long
>enough where I don't need a decal stating HP on the side of the truck.


But I hope you're advertising your penis length correctly. (Wondering
if Toyota and Honda have been caught in delusions they're John
Holmes.)


>FWIW, Nissan still dosen't comply with the standard.


Ignoring, of course, the fact that GM and Ford do.

Faith is an interesting thing....

"edward ohare" <edward_ohare@nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:38:40 GMT, Bonehenge
> <Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:27:28 -0600, "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Comments4u" <comments4u@nospam.mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:qkmf4fnjxw8u.nhfrtfauf1l4.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>>>> Is that new Honda or Toyota less powerful than last years model?
>>>> Well, yes, and no. The engines in the new models don't make
>>>> any less power than last year's engines, even though the numbers
>>>> on the specification page are lower. Its just that the
>>>> Asians have been caught playing the loopholes in the standards,
>>
>>FWIW, My 2005 Tacoma has the same 236 HP V6 as the 2006. My 2005 was
>>advertised as 250 HP.
>>
>>Who cares? What am I going to do buy a Colorado? That would be
>>biting off my nose to spite my face! <G> My Tacoma is an outstanding
>>truck,
>
>
> Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but its kinda funny that at the
> same time you admit you know virtually nothing about your truck, and
> even scarier that you say you don't care.
>
>
>> and I can't tell 236 from 250 when driving. My penis is long
>>enough where I don't need a decal stating HP on the side of the truck.
>
>
> But I hope you're advertising your penis length correctly. (Wondering
> if Toyota and Honda have been caught in delusions they're John
> Holmes.)
>
>
>>FWIW, Nissan still dosen't comply with the standard.
>
>
> Ignoring, of course, the fact that GM and Ford do.
>

That is not how I read the article. GM and Ford are only testing new
powerplants, for the most part, according to the article. Toyota and Honda
tested everything.

"Scott en Aztlán" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3qgs121k1rbrcarc93phsvialve32hrs86@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:05:22 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Nissan wants no part of the Effective Horsepower program, claiming
>>>>rust is a localized problem, only occurring in the snow belt,
>>>>near ocean areas, and in places where it rains.
>>>
>>> So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>>
>>Arizona, for one.
>
> Sorry, it rains in Arizona.
> --

Sure does, but without salt rust just doesn't appear except on the exhaust
system. I worked with a guy who restored old Fords (no accounting for
taste!) in Phoenix and sold them to out-of-staters. They were all from the
50s and 60s and didn't have a trace of body rust, which made them very
desirable... although I never figured out the attraction for a car with
vacuum operated wipers and four wheel drum brakes.

Mike

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:35:05 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>>>>>Nissan wants no part of the Effective Horsepower program, claiming
>>>>>rust is a localized problem, only occurring in the snow belt,
>>>>>near ocean areas, and in places where it rains.
>>>>
>>>> So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>>>
>>>Arizona, for one.
>>
>> Sorry, it rains in Arizona.
>
>Sure does, but without salt rust just doesn't appear except on the exhaust
>system.

Someone needs to explain that to the folks at Nissan.
--
What the heck, I'll play too.
- Dave

In article <lY6dnSN1Aa_IN4DZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> jim beam <nospam@example.net> writes:
>Alan Baker wrote:
>> In article <Xns978B6F1BA5A6Fthefrogprince@70.169.32.36>,
>> "Larry J." <usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Waiving the right to remain silent, "Michael Pardee"
>>><michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Scott en Aztl n" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:eauq12daod863v59037lqtfikof4n1gp6j@4ax.co m...
>>>>
>>>>>So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Arizona, for one. Rust is unknown in the Phoenix area except in
>>>>cars brought in from areas where roads are salted.
>>>
>>>Near Tucson, (and in nearby California deserts) there are a couple of
>>>airplane graveyards, where thousands of planes sit, virtually rust-
>>>free.
>>
>>
>> How many of those planes are made of steel?
>>
>which part of the plane guy? almost all planes use steels in
>undercarriage equipment, engine mounts, etc. some even use it for wing
>spars.
>
>but if you want to be really pedantic, there is a plane down there in
>the phoenix area at the pima air museum called a budd conestoga. that
>thing is /all/ steel. it's also rivetless, but that's getting too
>involved...

The Budd Conestogas were built from *stainless* steel. And they
were welded, not riveted.
--
Jeff

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
news:rPOdnQZMuO4ppoLZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
> "Scott en Aztlán" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3qgs121k1rbrcarc93phsvialve32hrs86@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:05:22 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
>> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Nissan wants no part of the Effective Horsepower program, claiming
>>>>>rust is a localized problem, only occurring in the snow belt,
>>>>>near ocean areas, and in places where it rains.
>>>>
>>>> So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>>>
>>>Arizona, for one.
>>
>> Sorry, it rains in Arizona.
>> --
>
> Sure does, but without salt rust just doesn't appear except on the exhaust
> system. I worked with a guy who restored old Fords (no accounting for
> taste!) in Phoenix and sold them to out-of-staters. They were all from the
> 50s and 60s and didn't have a trace of body rust, which made them very
> desirable... although I never figured out the attraction for a car with
> vacuum operated wipers and four wheel drum brakes.
>

I have a fond memory of my father out in the pouring rain, cutting off the
end of the vaccuum hose connected to the wipers in a 57 Ford wagon, so he
could get them working again.

Jeff <wieland@nospampurdue.edu> wrote in
news:dvptco$1l0$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu:

> In article <lY6dnSN1Aa_IN4DZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> jim beam
> <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>but if you want to be really pedantic, there is a plane down there in
>>the phoenix area at the pima air museum called a budd conestoga. that
>>thing is /all/ steel. it's also rivetless, but that's getting too
>>involved...
>
> The Budd Conestogas were built from *stainless* steel. And they
> were welded, not riveted.
> --
> Jeff
>

Didn't Budd have a patent on shot welding? We have some Silverliner III
trainsets still running around here. They're older than I am.

Doug