Honda Car Forum

DTJ wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:34:17 GMT, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <Xns978B6F1BA5A6Fthefrogprince@70.169.32.36>,
>>"Larry J." <usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Waiving the right to remain silent, "Michael Pardee"
>>><michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Scott en Aztl n" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:eauq12daod863v59037lqtfikof4n1gp6j@4ax.co m...
>>>>
>>>>>So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Arizona, for one. Rust is unknown in the Phoenix area except in
>>>>cars brought in from areas where roads are salted.
>>>
>>>Near Tucson, (and in nearby California deserts) there are a couple of
>>>airplane graveyards, where thousands of planes sit, virtually rust-
>>>free.
>>
>>How many of those planes are made of steel?
>
>
> That is not the issue. There was a show on TV a few weeks ago that
> discussed how they spray the planes with something like an inch of
> some chemical, that prevents all kinds of problems.
>
> *************************
> Dave

the cockpit canopies are screened and the engine nacelles blocked up,
but that's about it. take a vacation to tucson some time and check one
of the bone yards out for yourself.

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Scott en Aztlán" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eauq12daod863v59037lqtfikof4n1gp6j@4ax.com...
> >
> > So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
> >
> Arizona, for one. Rust is unknown in the Phoenix area except in cars brought
> in from areas where roads are salted.
>
> Mike

It's not just the no road salt. Also the low humidity.

Are you referring to the aluminum airplanes, the canvas airplanes or the
wooden airplanes? LOL


mike hunt


"Larry J." <usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote in message

>>> So, um, where is it that cars do NOT rust?
>>>
>> Arizona, for one. Rust is unknown in the Phoenix area except in
>> cars brought in from areas where roads are salted.
>
> Near Tucson, (and in nearby California deserts) there are a couple of
> airplane graveyards, where thousands of planes sit, virtually rust-
> free.
>
> --
> Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail
>

In article <eauq12daod863v59037lqtfikof4n1gp6j@4ax.com>, Scott en Aztlán wrote:

> Actually, Mazda (which is owned by Ford) did something similar when
> they introduced the RX-8, downrating its horsepower to 238 and
> offering to buy back vehciles from anyone who felt ripped off. And
> don't forget the big debacle over the 1999 Cobra, which was discovered
> after owners tested their cars on dynamometers. Ford took so long to
> find a fix that they cancelled production on the 2000 Cobras. They
> eventually had to replace exhaust systems and other parts in every
> 1999 Cobra they produced in order to actually achieve the advertised
> horsepower.

I expect very little coverage of this latest issue with the japanese
makes compared with what ford got on the '99 Cobra. Thing is the article
described actual cheating while the Cobra issue seemed more or less the
difference between prototype and production.

The import double standard assures that Ford and GM are duely punished
for such things while for the japanese makes it's some obscure mention
that is caught by a few car guys.

In article <Xns978B6F1BA5A6Fthefrogprince@70.169.32.36>, Larry J. wrote:

> Near Tucson, (and in nearby California deserts) there are a couple of
> airplane graveyards, where thousands of planes sit, virtually rust-
> free.

AL corrodes to dust, it doesn't rust.

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:29:46 GMT, Comments4u
<comments4u@nospam.mindspring.com.invalid> wrote:
>None of the GM and Ford engines that have been tested have shown
>power losses. Some have shown power gains. For those who
>critcize Detroit for being stupid, one thing is clear: at least
>they're smart enough not to lie.

Detroit cars only go downhill after three years.

J.

The word you are looking for is oxidizes

mike hunt


"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7vKdnZM5_IYuW4DZRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> In article <Xns978B6F1BA5A6Fthefrogprince@70.169.32.36>, Larry J. wrote:
>
>> Near Tucson, (and in nearby California deserts) there are a couple of
>> airplane graveyards, where thousands of planes sit, virtually rust-
>> free.
>
> AL corrodes to dust, it doesn't rust.
>
>

"Comments4u" <comments4u@nospam.mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:qkmf4fnjxw8u.nhfrtfauf1l4.dlg@40tude.net...
> Is that new Honda or Toyota less powerful than last years model?
> Well, yes, and no. The engines in the new models don't make
> any less power than last year's engines, even though the numbers
> on the specification page are lower. Its just that the
> Asians have been caught playing the loopholes in the standards,
> putting in premium gas for horsepower testing while rating
> annual fuel cost based on regular, tweaking engine controls to
> non-standard settings, and turning off accessories.
>
>
http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs...TO01/603130350
>

I don't know if anyone else picked up on it but the text at the link bears
no relationship to what follows...

[snip]
> After being caught redhanded overstating horsepower,
> Hyundai paid cash compensation to over 800,000 owners. "Honda
> and Toyota owners aren't like that", said Joseph Camel of the
> Brand Research Institute. "They're pretty docile owner groups.
> After all, they bought the idea that its normal maintenance to
> automatically replace water pumps at 75,000 miles.
>

"Joseph Camel?" Joe Camel? R-i-i-g-ht.

[snip]


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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:27:28 -0600, "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:

>"Comments4u" <comments4u@nospam.mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:qkmf4fnjxw8u.nhfrtfauf1l4.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>> Is that new Honda or Toyota less powerful than last years model?
>> Well, yes, and no. The engines in the new models don't make
>> any less power than last year's engines, even though the numbers
>> on the specification page are lower. Its just that the
>> Asians have been caught playing the loopholes in the standards,

FWIW, My 2005 Tacoma has the same 236 HP V6 as the 2006. My 2005 was
advertised as 250 HP.

Who cares? What am I going to do buy a Colorado? That would be
biting off my nose to spite my face! <G> My Tacoma is an outstanding
truck, and I can't tell 236 from 250 when driving. My penis is long
enough where I don't need a decal stating HP on the side of the truck.

FWIW, Nissan still dosen't comply with the standard.

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:38:40 GMT, Bonehenge
<Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com> wrote:

>
>FWIW, My 2005 Tacoma has the same 236 HP V6 as the 2006. My 2005 was
>advertised as 250 HP.

Sorry, it was advertised as 245.

See what I mean? Who cares? I don't even know exactly how may
horsepower my vehicle is! <G>