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Old 08 Mar 2006, 07:48 am
Jim Yanik
 
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Default Re: 2005 Accord: Holding on a hill...

"Guest" <sheshonq@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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>> "Guest" <sheshonq@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....

>>
>> It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for
>> holding a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other
>> traffic.
>>

>
> The vehicle is driving, not stationary.
>
>
>


you distinctly said "holding" on a hill,which IS "stationary".
Or were you saying that your tranny slips while -going up- a hill?

If you want to "hold" while stopped for traffic,a red light,whatever,the
HANDBRAKE is the customary method of "hillholding",that is the reason it's
a HANDbrake and not just a parking brake.

It's not a "smart-ass answer",either,it's a FACT.

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Old 08 Mar 2006, 08:37 am
Brian Smith
 
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"Guest" <sheshonq@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> No, the problem I am having are people giving smart ass answers.


LOL! That's the sign of immaturity, when one can not (or will not) accept
responsibility for one's own actions.


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Old 08 Mar 2006, 09:17 am
Brian Smith
 
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"Guest" <sheshonq@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> The vehicle is driving, not stationary.


Then why the concern because its moving?




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Old 08 Mar 2006, 12:22 pm
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>>>>>>>It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill. How do I do it?
>>>>>>>When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
>>>>>>>think that an Accord would do the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe a silly question, but what's wrong with just keeping your foot
>>>>>>on the brake as is proper?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>Thats what a HANDbrake is for;for hill-holding.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jim Yanik
>>>>>jyanik
>>>>>at
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>>>>
>>>>Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....
>>>>
>>>
>>>If you're stopped at a light, don't you keep your foot on the brake pedal
>>>to keep the car from moving forward? Why can't you do the same thing
>>>when you're stopped on a hill? If you're worried about rollback, use
>>>your left foot on the brake pedal (only when stopped, please).
>>>--
>>>Bearman
>>>If it's got tits, tires, tubes, or transistors, it's trouble.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Instead of trying to give me smart answers, understand that the Civic had
>> no rollback. I liked that about that car and I assumed that the Accord
>> would have that feature. That is the point of my question. I like the
>> ability to take off from a steep hill without the rollback.

> the /old/ civic had no rollback, but all the /new/ civics, accords, etc.
> do because it improves [reduces] gas consumption. it's a design feature.
> that's one of the reasons why honda get ulev or sulev epa designations.


Thanks for your sensible answer.


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Old 08 Mar 2006, 12:25 pm
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"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:03:23 -0800, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>>old hondas did, new hondas don't. it's all about fuel economy. use
>>your right foot to solve the situation. appropriate pressure on either
>>pedal will work.

>
> Or both.
>
> Interesting problem. Maybe need an inclinometer and new computer
> settings!
>
> Haven't experienced the problem myself in my current Accord, but I've
> handled it with sticks before, so I figure it must work somehow even
> with autos.
>
> J.
>


It's not a problem on most hills, but when they get rather steep, that's
when I feel it. I guess the next time I buy a car, I need to take it on MY
test drive route and not theirs.


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Old 08 Mar 2006, 07:01 pm
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"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:IckPf.14083$dg.8425@clgrps13...

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> "Guest" <sheshonq@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....

>
> It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for holding
> a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other traffic.
>
>

Ah, what the hell, just use your Hill Holder..........,uh, they used to have them on Studebakers! And, IIRC, Subarus too.
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Old 09 Mar 2006, 02:49 pm
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 19:01:59 -0500, "karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote:

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>"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:IckPf.14083$dg.8425@clgrps13...
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>> "Guest" <sheshonq@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:zLhPf.19190$NS6.7427@newssvr30.news.prodigy.c om...
>>>
>>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....

>>
>> It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for holding
>> a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other traffic.
>>
>>

>Ah, what the hell, just use your Hill Holder..........,uh, they used to have them on Studebakers! And, IIRC, Subarus too.


Land anchors?

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Old 09 Mar 2006, 06:27 pm
James
 
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Default Re: 2005 Accord: Holding on a hill...

yeah having the trans hold the car on a hill is extremely hard on it, is it
not?
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>>> Guest wrote:
>>>
>>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill. How do I do it?
>>> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would think
>>> that an Accord would do the same.

>>
>>
>> --------------------------------
>>
>> The owner's manual is the first place I'd look. All Honda manuals I've
>> ever read said "Don't expect the Honda tranny to hold the car on an
>> incline", or words to that effect.
>>
>> Solved..

>
> Thanks. I will look. That is odd that it does not hold without the
> break. I expected more out of it.
>



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Old 09 Mar 2006, 09:47 pm
Grumpy AuContraire
 
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JXStern wrote:
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> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 19:01:59 -0500, "karinhall" <ah@nsdap.com> wrote:
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> >
> >"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:IckPf.14083$dg.8425@clgrps13...
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> >> "Guest" <sheshonq@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:zLhPf.19190$NS6.7427@newssvr30.news.prodigy.c om...
> >>>
> >>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....
> >>
> >> It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for holding
> >> a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other traffic.
> >>
> >>

> >Ah, what the hell, just use your Hill Holder..........,uh, they used to have them on Studebakers! And, IIRC, Subarus too.

>
> Land anchors?




Suburus had an inferior copy. The hill holder on my '56 Studebaker
Power Hawk it the original unit and has never required adjustment and
it's the single best friend you can have on steep hill intersections...

JT
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Old 11 Mar 2006, 09:47 pm
John Horner
 
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Guest wrote:
> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill. How do I do it? When
> I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would think that an
> Accord would do the same.


Use the brakes.

John
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