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Old 08 Feb 2006, 10:31 pm
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I just recently got a crx given to me and their is some problems with it. My concern is I pulled the oil dip-stick and its over full level and it smells like fuel, any suggestions

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Old 09 Feb 2006, 05:21 am
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Default Re: Fuel in my oil

Raw fuel is being dumped in at least one cylinder, washing the protective
oil film off of the piston rings, collecting in the crankcase, diluting the
oil and causing great wear to the block/bearings/rings and any other point
at which engine oil is acting as lubrication. Get this fixed *immediately*.
Have a dead miss? maybe the plug in that cylinder isn't firing, so it might
be a relatively simple cure. In any case, after repairs, a couple of oil
changes to flush the contaminated oil out of all areas of the engine is in
order. In any case, don't use the car until you have it diagnosed by a real
mechanic or you might cost yourself an engine.

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> I just recently got a crx given to me and their is some problems with it.
> My concern is I pulled the oil dip-stick and its over full level and it
> smells like fuel, any suggestions?
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Old 09 Feb 2006, 02:46 pm
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To raise the oil level is a LOT of fuel in the oil. It is unlikely that
it is entering via a cylinder. I don't know what year you are talking
about, but if it is older and the FP is mounted on the engine, look for
a bad diaphram on the fuel pump. Could be entering there...

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Old 09 Feb 2006, 04:01 pm
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timeldorado <timeldorado.22y9pn@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in
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> I just recently got a crx given to me and their is some problems with
> it. My concern is I pulled the oil dip-stick and its over full level
> and it smells like fuel, any suggestions?
>
>



What year CRX? Does it have a carb?

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Old 10 Feb 2006, 07:54 am
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"Pablo" <plongson@cox.net> wrote in message
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> To raise the oil level is a LOT of fuel in the oil. It is unlikely that
> it is entering via a cylinder. I don't know what year you are talking
> about, but if it is older and the FP is mounted on the engine, look for
> a bad diaphram on the fuel pump. Could be entering there...
>

That's my thought. If it isn't a bad fuel pump (as you describe) the engine
should be running mighty badly to dump that much fuel past the rings.

Once the problem is found and fixed an oil change is definitely in order.
I've heard the argument that the oil will still work okay with a lot of fuel
in it and the fuel will gradually burn off through the PCV valve but I don't
see the point in letting it go.

Mike


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Old 11 Feb 2006, 10:49 pm
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Michael Pardee wrote:
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> "Pablo" <plongson@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:1139514414.977845.131730@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > To raise the oil level is a LOT of fuel in the oil. It is unlikely that
> > it is entering via a cylinder. I don't know what year you are talking
> > about, but if it is older and the FP is mounted on the engine, look for
> > a bad diaphram on the fuel pump. Could be entering there...
> >

> That's my thought. If it isn't a bad fuel pump (as you describe) the
> engine should be running mighty badly to dump that much fuel past the
> rings.
>
> Once the problem is found and fixed an oil change is definitely in order.
> I've heard the argument that the oil will still work okay with a lot of
> fuel in it and the fuel will gradually burn off through the PCV valve but
> I don't see the point in letting it go.
>


That doesn't sound like a valid argument to me. The excess fuel will
function as a solvent thinning the oil and reducing its lubrication
effectiveness. If the original poster's car is carbureted, then it could be
that the carburetor is flooding. This would be the first thing that I would
check.

Eric
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Old 12 Feb 2006, 08:12 am
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"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:43EEB047.9DC84141@spam.now...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>> "Pablo" <plongson@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:1139514414.977845.131730@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> > To raise the oil level is a LOT of fuel in the oil. It is unlikely that
>> > it is entering via a cylinder. I don't know what year you are talking
>> > about, but if it is older and the FP is mounted on the engine, look for
>> > a bad diaphram on the fuel pump. Could be entering there...
>> >

>> That's my thought. If it isn't a bad fuel pump (as you describe) the
>> engine should be running mighty badly to dump that much fuel past the
>> rings.
>>
>> Once the problem is found and fixed an oil change is definitely in order.
>> I've heard the argument that the oil will still work okay with a lot of
>> fuel in it and the fuel will gradually burn off through the PCV valve but
>> I don't see the point in letting it go.
>>

>
> That doesn't sound like a valid argument to me. The excess fuel will
> function as a solvent thinning the oil and reducing its lubrication
> effectiveness. If the original poster's car is carbureted, then it could
> be
> that the carburetor is flooding. This would be the first thing that I
> would
> check.
>
> Eric


Dunno - I've had float valves jam and flood the engine so it wouldn't run
and still not reach the point where it was obvious in the oil. A bad
engine-mounted fuel pump can add a steady stream of gasoline. If the engine
has been running okay the fuel pump is the way to go.

Mike


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Old 12 Feb 2006, 06:39 pm
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Michael Pardee wrote:
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> Dunno - I've had float valves jam and flood the engine so it wouldn't run
> and still not reach the point where it was obvious in the oil. A bad
> engine-mounted fuel pump can add a steady stream of gasoline. If the
> engine has been running okay the fuel pump is the way to go.
>


Good points, I guess that both the fuel pump and the carburetor should be
suspect. Thanks.

Eric
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