Honda Car Forum

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2006-01-01, Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> > From this we learn a few things:
>
> > 2) Popular Mechanics is full of shite.
>
> Mainly, that you don't know how to spell shit!
>
> nb



"Schitt" is much more diplomatic...

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JT

aarcuda69062 wrote:
> In article
> <1136122410.266996.37710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
> "Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'd be tempted to forget removing it and simply drill a new hole and
> > tap it. I think I would be done in an hour including a trip to the
> > store for the tap if I didn't have one, but I do.
>
> Did you even bother to look at the pictures?
>
> If he leaves it as is, he's going to have a hell of an exhaust
> leak, not to mention that there's not likely to be sufficient
> meat in any other area of the manifold to mount an O2 sensor.

On the other hand I DID look at the pictures and the piece he has left
in the manifold should not leak. It's broke off almost flush with the
edge. The O2 sensor does not have a hold in the center like a
lifesaver. The boss for the sensor is thicker, but I believe the
casting has enough for holding a sensor. It's a crap shoot maybe. A
person could drill a 3/16 test hole to see how thick it is there and
make the decision to go forward or not and plug the hole. Believe it or
not, O2 sensors are moved around on the manifold like this at times.

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, notbob wrote:

> On 2006-01-01, Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> From this we learn a few things:
>
>> 2) Popular Mechanics is full of shite.
>
> Mainly, that you don't know how to spell shit!

....or that you're a cloistered, ignorant, triggermouthed American.

In article
<1136157026.651848.153470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

> > Did you even bother to look at the pictures?

> On the other hand I DID look at the pictures and the piece he has left
> in the manifold should not leak. It's broke off almost flush with the
> edge. The O2 sensor does not have a hold in the center like a
> lifesaver.

Look again. I can clearly see the zirconia 'thimble' that is
exposed inside the louvered sensor tip.

> The boss for the sensor is thicker, but I believe the
> casting has enough for holding a sensor. It's a crap shoot maybe. A
> person could drill a 3/16 test hole to see how thick it is there and
> make the decision to go forward or not and plug the hole.

Indeed. What reliable method would he use to plug a hole in cast
iron?

> Believe it or
> not, O2 sensors are moved around on the manifold like this at times.

Haven't seen it in over 36 years. In a pipe, yes, but not in a
manifold.

Remco wrote:
> Elle wrote:
>
>>Sure, if all a man wants around him is other manly
>>technicians.
>>
>>I advise "Goop" or similar, followed by ordinary soap, then,
>>for men, cologne or aftershave. (Tip: Amazing how huggable
>>men are when the scent of even a little aftershave is in the
>>air--I'm not proud of it, but with enough aftershave, I'll
>>swoon even before men of a different political party
>>affiliation.)
>>
>>Anything but that WD-40 (or PB Blaster, etc.) odor...
>>
>>Brandy? Rav?
>>
>>I've stopped bringing penetrating oils into the house for
>>even little cleanup jobs at the kitchen sink, because they
>>make the whole house reek for a day.
>>
>>Happiest of New Years to all. Be safe, find peace.
>
>
> So using that handy dandy WD40 spray can as room refresher is out,
> then?
> May all your Hondas keep running.
>
> Remco
>

Completely apropos of nothing, but I actually love the smell of gear
oil. I can't quite warm up to the limited slip additive, however...

nate

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Won't work in his case, the nut part is broken off. But another thing
that I have used with some success in the past is a cheap candle. Heat
up whatever you want to remove, while it is red hot, stick a candle
close by so the wax will melt and run into the threads. It will run in
almost like solder. It really works, believe it or not...

nate

Stephen H wrote:
> Wow, that can be a tuff one.
>
> My first choice; ox-ace heat, followed by the wrench
> Another option that was said to me was try to tighten first, then back out.
> This tip was from a old master tech that teaches tech courses. Now I tried
> it once and it didn't work for me, but we still try (I think I used heat on
> that one.)
> He also said ATf is a good penetrate. get the part hot and pun some on it
> and let it set overnight, the dissipating heat will wick it into the
> threads.
> I also have in my box a tap that is the 02 sensor size, wasn't easy to find,
> but I ordered it before I needed it.
> There also is an heli-coil set for thread repairs, sometimes they screw
> themselves up on the way out
> If you remove the manifold you could carry it to a vise or a machine shop.
> Heat is always the best choice.
>
>


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Nate Nagel wrote:
> Remco wrote:
> > Elle wrote:
> >
> >>Sure, if all a man wants around him is other manly
> >>technicians.
> >>
> >>I advise "Goop" or similar, followed by ordinary soap, then,
> >>for men, cologne or aftershave. (Tip: Amazing how huggable
> >>men are when the scent of even a little aftershave is in the
> >>air--I'm not proud of it, but with enough aftershave, I'll
> >>swoon even before men of a different political party
> >>affiliation.)
> >>
> >>Anything but that WD-40 (or PB Blaster, etc.) odor...
> >>
> >>Brandy? Rav?
> >>
> >>I've stopped bringing penetrating oils into the house for
> >>even little cleanup jobs at the kitchen sink, because they
> >>make the whole house reek for a day.
> >>
> >>Happiest of New Years to all. Be safe, find peace.
> >
> >
> > So using that handy dandy WD40 spray can as room refresher is out,
> > then?
> > May all your Hondas keep running.
> >
> > Remco
> >
>
> Completely apropos of nothing, but I actually love the smell of gear
> oil. I can't quite warm up to the limited slip additive, however...
>
> nate
>

Maybe you, Mike, Elle and me stumbled onto a hole in the perfume
market....

Just watch: a month from now, one of the fancy perfume companies will
come out with "Essence de Voiture".. Ahh, the smell of it

"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote
> Nate Nagel wrote:
> > Remco wrote:
> > > Elle wrote:
> > >
> > >>Sure, if all a man wants around him is other manly
> > >>technicians.
> > >>
> > >>I advise "Goop" or similar, followed by ordinary soap,
then,
> > >>for men, cologne or aftershave. (Tip: Amazing how
huggable
> > >>men are when the scent of even a little aftershave is
in the
> > >>air--I'm not proud of it, but with enough aftershave,
I'll
> > >>swoon even before men of a different political party
> > >>affiliation.)
> > >>
> > >>Anything but that WD-40 (or PB Blaster, etc.) odor...
> > >>
> > >>Brandy? Rav?
> > >>
> > >>I've stopped bringing penetrating oils into the house
for
> > >>even little cleanup jobs at the kitchen sink, because
they
> > >>make the whole house reek for a day.
> > >>
> > >>Happiest of New Years to all. Be safe, find peace.
> > >
> > >
> > > So using that handy dandy WD40 spray can as room
refresher is out,
> > > then?
> > > May all your Hondas keep running.
> > >
> > > Remco
> > >
> >
> > Completely apropos of nothing, but I actually love the
smell of gear
> > oil. I can't quite warm up to the limited slip
additive, however...
> >
> > nate
> >
>
> Maybe you, Mike, Elle and me stumbled onto a hole in the
perfume
> market....
>
> Just watch: a month from now, one of the fancy perfume
companies will
> come out with "Essence de Voiture".. Ahh, the smell of it


That's right, I neglected the flip side of the coin, which
is of course "What essence should a woman splash on to best
'catch' a man?"

Last time a guy complimented the fragrance coming from my
direction, I had to tell him it was only hair spray. :-)

Anyway... I was thinking that the seemingly wide gender
divide on the, um, appeal of machine oils may help explain
certain other gender trends. Like why there are so few
female auto techs?

I dunno. There does seem to be a noticeable difference in
preferences.

Getting back to cars and this poor fellow with the busted
off O2 sensor...

Lawrence Glickman wrote:
>
> It looks like the sawblade suggestion is worth a try, but personally I
> would consider it as the last resort. Twisting it out with some kind
> of long-handled tool would be my first attempt. We can see what
> happened with his first attempt. It broke the sensor off. Now you
> just have to twist it out with that pipe gizmo you said you can buy at
> Home Depot or somesuch.
>
> In fact, I am going there tomorrow just to look for such a thing.
> What is it called? Maybe I will see it in the plumbing department.
>
> Lg

Easy-Out.
There are all kinds of them.
I have most of them. Great time saver, but not for this application.
The metal is too thin to grab.
http://www.toolprice.com/category/screwextractors

Forgot to mention,
Easy-Outs don't work well on rusted or overly tight things
without heating the object red-hot with oxy-actyl torch first.