Honda Car Forum

Hi,
I'm in Ottawa, ON Canada and i'm looking into purchasing a used 2002 Odyssey
LX. I'm wondering what a fair price is? The dealer has it listed as 20995
with 63, 000 Km on it. I took it for a drive and it seems OK and the
interior exterior all look in good condition.
Also, doing some research I found that there have been a few people with
transmission problems and I'm wondering if I should be concerned.
Dan

www.odyclub.com for answers to your questions and yes they have transmission
problems. 2002 five speed is a little better than the 99-01 four speed but
still has more problems than it should.


"DanMan" <ottpak@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm in Ottawa, ON Canada and i'm looking into purchasing a used 2002
> Odyssey LX. I'm wondering what a fair price is? The dealer has it listed
> as 20995 with 63, 000 Km on it. I took it for a drive and it seems OK and
> the interior exterior all look in good condition.
> Also, doing some research I found that there have been a few people with
> transmission problems and I'm wondering if I should be concerned.
> Dan
>

Have you tried www.edmunds.com ? It has used car pricing by
geographic location (can't remember if that includes
Canada), car mileage and condition, and retail, private
party and trade-in.

"DanMan" <ottpak@nospam.gmail.com> wrote
> I'm in Ottawa, ON Canada and i'm looking into purchasing a
used 2002 Odyssey
> LX. I'm wondering what a fair price is? The dealer has it
listed as 20995
> with 63, 000 Km on it. I took it for a drive and it seems
OK and the
> interior exterior all look in good condition.

"DanMan" <ottpak@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:PJwrf.16$l87.1323@news20.bellglobal.com...

> I'm in Ottawa, ON Canada and i'm looking into purchasing a used 2002
> Odyssey LX. I'm wondering what a fair price is?
Look at www.autotrader.ca


Stewart DIBBS

For this price or less , you could get a brand new dodge caravan with a full
warranty. They advertise is for around $19,000. If you go through apa.com or
similar organizations, the invoice price could be even less, as they tend to
go through the fleet manager.

The 2002 Odyssey is 4 years old and you don't know its history. There is
probably rust starting out inside the bumpers and the top of the doors
already - thanks to salt on the winter roads. However it would be worth it
to call up Honda or even just do a carfax report to see how much warranty is
left.



"DanMan" <ottpak@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:PJwrf.16$l87.1323@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Hi,
> I'm in Ottawa, ON Canada and i'm looking into purchasing a used 2002
> Odyssey LX. I'm wondering what a fair price is? The dealer has it listed
> as 20995 with 63, 000 Km on it. I took it for a drive and it seems OK and
> the interior exterior all look in good condition.
> Also, doing some research I found that there have been a few people with
> transmission problems and I'm wondering if I should be concerned.
> Dan
>

ER wrote:

> For this price or less , you could get a brand new dodge caravan with a
> full warranty. They advertise is for around $19,000. If you go through
> apa.com or similar organizations, the invoice price could be even less,
> as they tend to go through the fleet manager.
>
Why in the hell would he want a Crapsler minivan? Odyssey gets slightly
better gas mileage, has more power, and a 5-speed automatic vs the Caravan's
4-speed. Although past Odyssey's had tranny issues, tranny failures are
much more common on Caravans. Honda at least has been working to fix their
tranny problems, unlike Crapsler. Beyond the tranny issue, the Odyssey is
still much more reliable. Caravans are proven junk.


> The 2002 Odyssey is 4 years old and you don't know its history. There
> is probably rust starting out inside the bumpers and the top of the
> doors already - thanks to salt on the winter roads. However it would be
> worth it to call up Honda or even just do a carfax report to see how
> much warranty is left.

Any car, foreign or domestic, is bound to develop rust if the proper
precautions are not taken.

Honda transmission failure rate in the 99-03 year is far higher than
Caravan's. Odyssey also has problems with EGR, iac, and other areas. A new
Caravan would be a far better investment than a four year old Odyssey with
an unknown past and especially paying just about the cost of it when it was
new.


"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> ER wrote:
>
>> For this price or less , you could get a brand new dodge caravan with a
>> full warranty. They advertise is for around $19,000. If you go through
>> apa.com or similar organizations, the invoice price could be even less,
>> as they tend to go through the fleet manager.
>>
> Why in the hell would he want a Crapsler minivan? Odyssey gets slightly
> better gas mileage, has more power, and a 5-speed automatic vs the
> Caravan's
> 4-speed. Although past Odyssey's had tranny issues, tranny failures are
> much more common on Caravans. Honda at least has been working to fix
> their
> tranny problems, unlike Crapsler. Beyond the tranny issue, the Odyssey is
> still much more reliable. Caravans are proven junk.
>
>
>> The 2002 Odyssey is 4 years old and you don't know its history. There
>> is probably rust starting out inside the bumpers and the top of the
>> doors already - thanks to salt on the winter roads. However it would be
>> worth it to call up Honda or even just do a carfax report to see how
>> much warranty is left.
>
> Any car, foreign or domestic, is bound to develop rust if the proper
> precautions are not taken.

Woody wrote:

> Honda transmission failure rate in the 99-03 year is far higher than
> Caravan's.

Do you have proof of this?

And you obviously missed where I said that at least Honda works to fix their
tranny problems, unlike Crapsler. In case you forgot, Honda extended the
warranty on the 4-speed automatics and issued a recall for the 5-speed
automatics. Crapsler 4-speed auto trannies have been prone to failure since
the late 80s and they have never admitted to it.


> Odyssey also has problems with EGR, iac, and other areas.

Honda also extended the warranty on the EGR. There is a perfectly logical
reason why Crapslers have such long warranties... they know they make junk.


> A new Caravan would be a far better investment than a four year old
> Odyssey with an unknown past and especially paying just about the cost
> of it when it was new.
>
But a 4-year-old Odyssey is still likely to be more reliable than a new
Caravan. I know quite a few owners of newer Crapslers who hate their cars
because they have had many problems with them from the time they were
new. I'd rather pay more money for peace of mind knowing that an Odyssey is
still less likely to break down than a Caravan, and that Honda at least
works to fix such problems.

In article <VUesf.4136$l87.228344@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"ER" <ahjgta@gmail.com> wrote:

> For this price or less , you could get a brand new dodge caravan with a full
> warranty.

And for what they charge at a nice restaurant, you could gorge yourself
and your entire family at McDonald's.

What's your point? You're comparing apples to oranges.

In article <5Khsf.39358$7h7.37569@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> ,
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:

> Honda transmission failure rate in the 99-03 year is far higher than
> Caravan's.

Let's separate those out:

Honda 4 speed auto transmissions that were hooked to 6 cylinder engines
were absolute junk. Those were in the 99-01 Odysseys (as well as 98-02
Accords).

Come 02, Honda put an all-new 5 speed transmission in. This one had one
issue, which was easily diagnosed and fixed during recall.

I do believe it was probably into the 04 model year before the fix was
incorporated into manufacturing.

But I'd trust an 02 Odyssey transmission far, far more than I would any
99-01. And it's easy to see if you have or have had a problem one or
not.