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Old 25 Dec 2005, 12:02 am
John DiFool
 
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Default Best anti-theft device for new Honda?

I will be getting my new Honda in a month. It comes with something
called "Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System" (which is one of those
devices which cuts off the ignition and/or other vital systems if it
is tampered with). Additional options I've researched include:

1. Lojack, which in this high tech age may be easily countered by
a pro thief,
2. Window etching, which (apparently) can be easily done with a
$20 DIY kit (acid etches the VIN into your windows)
3. The Club, which is what I used on my old car.

Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?


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Old 25 Dec 2005, 02:34 am
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I have thought about this a long time and all I came up with was park in my
garage all the time, park under a lamp post as much as I can, and have
nothing of value visible in the car.

FWIW,
I saw that the "club" could be removed in less than a minute or two.
They just cut the steering wheel !!!.
Window etching is OK, but can only be used when they "recover" a stolen car
and then try to find out who the owner might be.
Lojack, I thought was neat, because it has a tracking feature.
I wish, there was a study maybe about where they show the rate of thefts vs.
what kind of security

Just a thought. The later laptops have this "fingerprint" thingy.
What would it do in a car ??

A very long time ago, I had a friend who had a Jeep. One of those old Army
type ones.
Each time he came to my house, he took the shifter out !!!.


IR.

"John DiFool" <johndifool@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:eu9sq19isbu2t0o09ppqnkd001tvo08p33@4ax.com...
>I will be getting my new Honda in a month. It comes with something
> called "Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System" (which is one of those
> devices which cuts off the ignition and/or other vital systems if it
> is tampered with). Additional options I've researched include:
>
> 1. Lojack, which in this high tech age may be easily countered by
> a pro thief,
> 2. Window etching, which (apparently) can be easily done with a
> $20 DIY kit (acid etches the VIN into your windows)
> 3. The Club, which is what I used on my old car.
>
> Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?
>
>



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Old 25 Dec 2005, 04:24 am
Bucky
 
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Default Re: Best anti-theft device for new Honda?

John DiFool wrote:
> Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?


comprehensive insurance? =)

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Old 25 Dec 2005, 04:39 am
end_is_near1
 
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Default Re: Best anti-theft device for new Honda?

yes, I second that. good insurance from a name-brand company.

"Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com> wrote in message
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> John DiFool wrote:
>> Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?

>
> comprehensive insurance? =)
>



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Old 25 Dec 2005, 05:22 am
Brian Smith
 
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"John DiFool" <johndifool@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:eu9sq19isbu2t0o09ppqnkd001tvo08p33@4ax.com...
>I will be getting my new Honda in a month. It comes with something
> called "Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System" (which is one of those
> devices which cuts off the ignition and/or other vital systems if it
> is tampered with). Additional options I've researched include:
>
> 1. Lojack, which in this high tech age may be easily countered by
> a pro thief,
> 2. Window etching, which (apparently) can be easily done with a
> $20 DIY kit (acid etches the VIN into your windows)
> 3. The Club, which is what I used on my old car.
>
> Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?


The very best plan is to always leave your valuables and purchases out of
sight of prying eyes and to lock your vehicle. This is also one of the most
affordable and easy to use systems available.

Brian


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Old 25 Dec 2005, 10:47 am
duckbill
 
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You're just trying to make your car a little less tempting than the next
guys. If a determined thief wants it, he will get it. The club is a
visual deterent. A switch interupting the fuel pump would also work as
would removing the coil wire. Maybe the best imobilizer is one that that
goes over your wheel and keeps it from turning. They use it to corral
people who get to many tickets. A coworker had his pride and joy towed
out of his driveway at 4:30 AM. Oh well?

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Old 25 Dec 2005, 01:39 pm
Jim Yanik
 
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John DiFool <johndifool@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:eu9sq19isbu2t0o09ppqnkd001tvo08p33@4ax.com:

> I will be getting my new Honda in a month. It comes with something
> called "Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System" (which is one of those
> devices which cuts off the ignition and/or other vital systems if it
> is tampered with).


Does it have a siren? Or pager to silently notify you your vehicle is being
attacked?

> Additional options I've researched include:
>
> 1. Lojack, which in this high tech age may be easily countered by
> a pro thief,


Effective only if they take the entire car.

> 2. Window etching, which (apparently) can be easily done with a
> $20 DIY kit (acid etches the VIN into your windows)


Good for protecting your window glass,not much else.

> 3. The Club, which is what I used on my old car.
>
> Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?
>
>


None of those prevent someone from breaking a window,then removing parts as
they please.Like stereos,ECUs,airbags,your CD collection,any valuables left
in the auto.....

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Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Old 25 Dec 2005, 01:43 pm
Jim Yanik
 
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"end_is_near1" <walter_bagehot@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bNtrf.6322$pE4.4952@tornado.socal.rr.com:

> yes, I second that. good insurance from a name-brand company.
>
> "Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com> wrote in message
> news:1135502666.012563.118100@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> John DiFool wrote:
>>> Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?

>>
>> comprehensive insurance? =)
>>

>
>


Insurance only pays AFTER the theft occurs,it does not do anything towards
*preventing* the theft.
Insurance does little good when they steal your engine control module(PGM-
FI ECU) and you can't get a new one for 6 weeks.It also does nothing when
you are stuck somewhere with your car in pieces.

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jyanik
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Old 26 Dec 2005, 01:17 pm
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"John DiFool" wrote in message...
> I will be getting my new Honda in a month. It comes with something
> called "Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System" (which is one of those
> devices which cuts off the ignition and/or other vital systems if it
> is tampered with). Additional options I've researched include:
>
> 1. Lojack, which in this high tech age may be easily countered by
> a pro thief,
> 2. Window etching, which (apparently) can be easily done with a
> $20 DIY kit (acid etches the VIN into your windows)
> 3. The Club, which is what I used on my old car.
>
> Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?


Most effective is the sound of a 12-gauge pump if you're at close range
(e.g. - alarm or silent pager). Good guard dog is also quite effective.

I've used a Kryptonite club, which is more resistant to freezing than the
Club, but doesn't help with the steering wheel being cut. Those thingies
that fit under the brake pedal would be more effective.

I've always wanted to wire a vehicle with c4 that had to be deactivated with
a hidden switch each time you started it... or maybe set off with a cell
phone signal...


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Old 26 Dec 2005, 05:35 pm
Michael Pardee
 
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"John DiFool" <johndifool@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:eu9sq19isbu2t0o09ppqnkd001tvo08p33@4ax.com...
>I will be getting my new Honda in a month. It comes with something
> called "Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System" (which is one of those
> devices which cuts off the ignition and/or other vital systems if it
> is tampered with). Additional options I've researched include:
>
> 1. Lojack, which in this high tech age may be easily countered by
> a pro thief,
> 2. Window etching, which (apparently) can be easily done with a
> $20 DIY kit (acid etches the VIN into your windows)
> 3. The Club, which is what I used on my old car.
>
> Anything else which might be effective and/or state of the art?
>
>

A hidden "kill switch" is effective in preventing the car from being
started, although the immobilizer provides most of that value. I like The
Club and similar devices which can interfere with the increasingly common
towing thefts if used according to instructions. Tow trucks depend on quick
snatches, and even leaving your front wheels inaccessible and turned to the
side will afford a lot of protection.

Mike


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